From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [Question] use-package's :init or :config for enabling modes Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 07:37:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87zfslya6d.fsf@rodrigomorales.site> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jD1JybeMkgny2vf/" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22203"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Rodrigo Morales , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 20 07:39:25 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s8vk5-0005Zr-NF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 May 2024 07:39:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s8vjT-0001jy-Kq; Mon, 20 May 2024 01:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s8viY-0001Ha-WB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2024 01:37:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s8viT-0004HX-Rr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 May 2024 01:37:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rnfN9MmkHWvqwg2aYIZAV8qZ5QLwDHeS/o9E3WiwOy0=; b=suwVoUzv+qYF08244yYWiME5ka ZwX0nnk8j/SA/RgocwNDLg9WNUHPHvkQMmUdXK/ZgJ8RogAVGmZpuDKSZmp2l4LwSeDVpvwQHkxWT iTbSh6ZIC+kgpRugBm945aXSyRThpBXiS2SBvfj0WkZwG0uxbdo/3cyE2XAyP5Ym1YKhbKH6khX69 QHIzHdJOQLDCv4dyWp2yJOGRd3BN1Lp7L/SMPr3lWNM0+ZdLmKzDJfNDYcQiRMaJ3gp5OZ1ojBb8f pg8sLOX/iiKmzldUihJ5BC7xgY8wB3x/+3l2HlZ/vjkIViQ3O52dGxp4fzGP24LDbCiKjzjZ3JPLh 1H9vmTwA==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s8viQ-0006io-3N; Mon, 20 May 2024 07:37:42 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:146788 Archived-At: --jD1JybeMkgny2vf/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 09:15:07PM +0200, Ergus wrote: > Hi: >=20 > I am not specialist here, but they exist because the :init is ALWAYS > executed while loading the init.el, but the :config is executed AFTER > loading the package (using eval-after-load). If I understand correctly, :init happens (possibly) before the package is loaded. So assuming it's already there seems risky. Unless "just invoking" the mode (as OP did in the :init) manages to load the package, because, e.g. it is autoloaded). Then all is well, but the explicit load doesn't do anything, because the package was (auto-) loaded in the :init already. But I may be wrong :-) Cheers --=20 t --jD1JybeMkgny2vf/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCZkrhpgAKCRAFyCz1etHa RqKHAJ0X+WJrOPu0wkLvfH4QVMWRcy9PwACfQRRhhm+mgUchtibvD5lL0Sg5XeM= =HQV6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jD1JybeMkgny2vf/--