* Re: [orgmode] Better recurrence for SCHEDULED and DEADLINE
@ 2024-08-21 11:59 Moakt Temporary Email
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From: Moakt Temporary Email @ 2024-08-21 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
>Any alternative ideas about syntax? My main concern is when the weekday
>name is not in English.
crontab also supports numerals:
0=Sunday
1=Monday
...
6=Friday
7=Sunday (in a sweet attention to detail and how brains work)
I suggest:
- numerals as the default language-agnostic implementation
- Three letter weekday names in English which covers the vast majority of users
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* Re: [orgmode] Better recurrence for SCHEDULED and DEADLINE
@ 2024-08-19 9:35 Moakt Temporary Email
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From: Moakt Temporary Email @ 2024-08-19 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
>Note that we also have diary style timestamps with arbitrary logic of
>date selection.
>
>The question is whether a more specialized repeater specification is
>needed. And if it is needed, what should be the available features.
>
>So far, you listed:
>1. Specific day of week, nth from the beginning of month
>2. "add 1 month then the next 17th of the month" - I do not
> understand. How is it different from <2024-08-17 ++1m>?
You are right, it is redundant. My brain was in cron syntax mode :)
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* Re: [orgmode] Better recurrence for SCHEDULED and DEADLINE
@ 2024-08-18 12:05 Moakt Temporary Email
2024-08-19 8:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Moakt Temporary Email @ 2024-08-18 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
>> I want to suggest that SCHEDULED and DEADLINE support things like "first
>> Monday of the month" like cron.
>That would indeed be nice. But may you provide more details on how you
>envision such support to be implemented?
I'm not sure. I am a lowly user :)
"++1m@Mon#1"? Maybe employ cron syntax for month and week for what's after "@"? Another example: "++1m@17" (= add 1 month then the next 17th of the month)
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* Re: [orgmode] Better recurrence for SCHEDULED and DEADLINE
2024-08-18 12:05 Moakt Temporary Email
@ 2024-08-19 8:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-19 17:40 ` Milan Zamazal
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2024-08-19 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Moakt Temporary Email; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Moakt Temporary Email <097073ee6adb@drmail.in> writes:
>>That would indeed be nice. But may you provide more details on how you
>>envision such support to be implemented?
>
> ...
> "++1m@Mon#1"? Maybe employ cron syntax for month and week for what's after "@"? Another example: "++1m@17" (= add 1 month then the next 17th of the month)
Note that we also have diary style timestamps with arbitrary logic of
date selection.
The question is whether a more specialized repeater specification is
needed. And if it is needed, what should be the available features.
So far, you listed:
1. Specific day of week, nth from the beginning of month
2. "add 1 month then the next 17th of the month" - I do not
understand. How is it different from <2024-08-17 ++1m>?
--
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* Re: [orgmode] Better recurrence for SCHEDULED and DEADLINE
2024-08-19 8:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2024-08-19 17:40 ` Milan Zamazal
2024-08-19 21:53 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-08-20 18:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Milan Zamazal @ 2024-08-19 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
>>>>> "IR" == Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
IR> Note that we also have diary style timestamps with arbitrary
IR> logic of date selection.
The primary problem with those timestamps is that they cannot be marked
as DONE and disappear from agendas for the given date. I think that
nth-dayofweek-in-month is the only case when I have to use them and it
would be nice to have “native” timestamps for that.
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* Re: [orgmode] Better recurrence for SCHEDULED and DEADLINE
2024-08-19 17:40 ` Milan Zamazal
@ 2024-08-19 21:53 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-08-20 4:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-20 18:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2024-08-19 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Milan Zamazal, emacs-orgmode
Milan Zamazal <pdm@zamazal.org> writes:
> The primary problem with those timestamps is that they cannot be marked
> as DONE and disappear from agendas for the given date.
+1 Also, the time of day must be in the heading.
For example,
"There is an official Fennel user group that meets on the third
Saturday of each month at 10:00 PST/18:00 UTC."
translates to
*** Fennel User Group 19:00
<%%(diary-float t 6 3)>
Rudy
--
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years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest
inconvenience from it." --- Mark Twain, paraphrased
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http://adamkovic.org
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* Re: [orgmode] Better recurrence for SCHEDULED and DEADLINE
2024-08-19 17:40 ` Milan Zamazal
2024-08-19 21:53 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2024-08-20 18:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2024-08-20 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Milan Zamazal; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Milan Zamazal <pdm@zamazal.org> writes:
>>>>>> "IR" == Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
>
> IR> Note that we also have diary style timestamps with arbitrary
> IR> logic of date selection.
>
> The primary problem with those timestamps is that they cannot be marked
> as DONE and disappear from agendas for the given date.
That might be changed, I think.
> ... I think that
> nth-dayofweek-in-month is the only case when I have to use them and it
> would be nice to have “native” timestamps for that.
Any alternative ideas about syntax? My main concern is when the weekday
name is not in English.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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* [orgmode] Better recurrence for SCHEDULED and DEADLINE
@ 2024-08-17 12:31 Moakt Temporary Email
2024-08-18 10:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Moakt Temporary Email @ 2024-08-17 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Greetings,
I want to suggest that SCHEDULED and DEADLINE support things like "first Monday of the month" like cron.
Thanks
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