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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Releasing the thread global_lock from the module API
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 20:30:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZeIsww02uKQq/qrk@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ierbk7xua8j.fsf@janestreet.com>

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On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 12:34:36PM -0500, Spencer Baugh wrote:

[...]

> We can't do:
> - Lisp thread A calls module_work
> - On thread A, module_work releases the global lock.
> - On thread A, module_work starts native threads X and Y,
>   and does Emacs-independent work across all of these threads in parallel.

If X and Y are truly independent of the Lisp machinery, I don't
understand what keeps you from sending both their ways and
terminating thread A, thus setting Lisp free for whatever other
thread wants to take over.

> - Unrelated Lisp thread B is able to take the global lock and run Lisp code
>   in parallel with module_work on thread A.
> - On thread A, module_work finishes and returns to Lisp.

Why has thread A wait up to here? This is what's keeping your thread B
from playing, no?

Cheers
-- 
t

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-01 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-01 14:53 Releasing the thread global_lock from the module API Spencer Baugh
2024-03-01 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-01 17:34   ` Spencer Baugh
2024-03-01 18:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-01 19:02       ` Spencer Baugh
2024-03-01 19:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-01 19:51           ` Spencer Baugh
2024-03-01 20:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-01 21:21               ` Spencer Baugh
2024-03-01 21:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-01 21:56                   ` Spencer Baugh
2024-03-02  6:43                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-02 16:39                       ` sbaugh
2024-03-02 17:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-02 20:33                           ` Spencer Baugh
2024-03-03  6:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-03 13:19                               ` sbaugh
2024-03-03 15:42                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-03-03 15:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-01 19:30     ` tomas [this message]
2024-03-01 23:53       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-03-02  5:57         ` tomas
2024-03-02 15:35           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-03-02 16:31             ` tomas
2024-03-02 21:41               ` sbaugh
2024-03-03  6:25                 ` tomas

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