From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Code for cond*
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 17:22:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zdt3TM4AzmcDSrVq@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvcysksgl3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Hello, Stefan.
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:38:46 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > On a slightly different topic, when will cond* be added/commited to
> > GNU Emacs? Seeing that how cond* works, and documentation has
> > slightly materialized, it would be good to get some milage.
I agree.
> FWIW, I'm opposed to adding it without first unifying the Pcase and
> `match*` pattern languages (including making sure that third party
> packages which define their own patterns don't need to define them
> separately for `pcase` and for `match*`).
> [ It's trivial to do by making `match*` reuse the Pcase machinery, so
> there is no serious obstacle for that. ]
I hope that cond* won't be written on top of pcase. The pcase machinery
is almost entirely undocumented (and even the "almost" might be an
exaggeration), and that doesn't look like changing any time soon.
Debugging pcase itself, or a backtrace involving one of its expansions
are thus difficult unpleasant tasks. (I speak from experience.)
cond* looks like being better on the first point, and might well be
better on the second. Those putative advantages would be lost by basing
cond*'s implementation on pcase.
> Stefan
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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2024-01-18 3:37 Code for cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-18 4:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-20 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-24 12:37 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 19:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-27 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-18 15:44 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-01-19 10:42 ` João Távora
2024-01-21 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-21 20:05 ` Adam Porter
2024-01-22 5:32 ` tomas
2024-01-23 13:39 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-24 6:02 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 9:48 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-24 10:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-24 11:30 ` João Távora
2024-01-24 12:08 ` João Távora
2024-01-24 12:09 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 12:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 12:33 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 13:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 13:52 ` João Távora
2024-01-24 14:31 ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-27 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-24 14:07 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 14:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 14:34 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 14:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 14:47 ` João Távora
2024-01-24 15:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-24 16:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 16:34 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 9:06 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 9:55 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 11:29 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 12:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 13:32 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 14:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 13:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 13:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 15:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 15:33 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 16:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 15:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 10:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 11:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-24 12:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-24 12:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 9:10 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 11:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 13:21 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 13:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 23:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-20 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-23 18:10 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-24 4:49 ` JD Smith
2024-01-24 9:45 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-24 15:29 ` JD Smith
2024-01-24 15:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24 16:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24 16:20 ` JD Smith
2024-01-24 17:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24 16:35 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-01-24 16:30 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-01 8:56 ` Madhu
2024-02-01 22:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 3:16 ` Madhu
2024-01-25 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-25 15:17 ` JD Smith
2024-01-25 15:37 ` JD Smith
2024-01-25 15:44 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 16:00 ` JD Smith
2024-01-25 16:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-25 16:12 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 16:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-25 16:33 ` JD Smith
2024-01-29 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 3:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-30 3:59 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-30 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 4:16 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-31 3:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-31 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-03 3:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-03 6:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-03 6:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-04 4:46 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-04 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-04 4:46 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-04 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-13 0:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-13 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-14 11:16 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-14 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-22 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-22 4:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-25 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-29 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-29 18:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-29 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-13 0:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-23 13:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-25 14:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-25 15:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-25 17:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 17:22 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2024-02-25 17:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-25 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-27 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-24 12:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-24 14:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-24 16:25 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-25 14:01 ` Code for cond* - cond*-match, cond*-subpat and backtrack-aliases Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-29 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 12:16 ` JD Smith
2024-02-01 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-01 14:54 ` JD Smith
2024-02-04 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 8:54 ` Andreas Schwab
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