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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>,
	visuweshm@gmail.com, justin@burkett.cc, philipk@posteo.net,
	luangruo@yahoo.com, jb@jeremybryant.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Rebinding Fn [Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs]
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 13:51:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZcTcWXCK0QFGAn0i@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86r0hnw1l1.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello, Eli.

On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 15:02:50 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 14:18:34 +0200
> > Cc: justin@burkett.cc, philipk@posteo.net, luangruo@yahoo.com,
> >  jb@jeremybryant.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>

> > On 08/02/2024 08:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > But
> > > I added F1 to that text, which should help if someone did change
> > > help-char.

> > Whether help-char is changed, or 'C-h' is rebound anyway, can all be 
> > detected at runtime. <f1> can also have a different binding in the 
> > current prefix map--then the new message would be doubly incorrect.

> How frequently do people rebind F1?  IME, never.

I bind F1 all the time, in the global map, and have done for over 20
years.  It selects the first created frame (which happens to be
conveniently called "F1" on a tty).  Likewise for F2 to F11.

Standard Emacs is strangely deficient in keyboard commands to select
frames.  C-x 5 o is unusably cumbersome if there are more than two or
three frames.

[ .... ]

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-08 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-31 23:23 discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-01  2:45 ` Po Lu
2024-02-03 13:40   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-04 22:03     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05  7:11       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-05 15:38         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 18:47           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-05 19:17             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-05 19:33               ` Justin Burkett
2024-02-05 23:05                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-06  2:49                   ` Justin Burkett
2024-02-06 23:12                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-07 12:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-07 18:31                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-07 19:13                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-07 19:51                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08  1:46                           ` Visuwesh
2024-02-08  6:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 12:18                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:02                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 13:36                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 14:43                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 16:12                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11  2:17                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11  2:39                                             ` Po Lu
2024-02-11 12:30                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11  6:49                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 12:26                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-11 15:00                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-11 20:36                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 16:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 13:41                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:51                                   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2024-02-08 13:55                                     ` Rebinding Fn [Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs] Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-08 14:04                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-08 13:25                           ` discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Po Lu
2024-02-08 13:27                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-08 13:36                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-02-01  7:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-01 21:16   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-02  6:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02  7:00       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-02  7:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 15:25           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-02 15:53             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-02 16:04             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-03 11:46             ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 11:39           ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 12:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 14:07               ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 15:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-04 22:18                   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-05 12:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 11:30       ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 11:36       ` Moving which-key ELPA package into core - " Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-03 16:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-04 22:12           ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-04 23:06             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-01 21:17   ` orzodk
2024-02-01 22:24     ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-01 23:49       ` orzodk
2024-02-02  6:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 16:00   ` Howard Melman
2024-02-02 19:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-02 19:32       ` tomas
2024-02-02 20:16         ` Howard Melman
2024-02-03  7:25           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-03  8:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-03 16:58             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-04 22:25               ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-04 22:55                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-05  3:40                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-04 23:47                 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-05  1:46                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-05  3:52               ` Divya Ranjan
2024-02-05 15:04                 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-04 18:34             ` Howard Melman

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