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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 67196@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil.
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 17:55:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVUGBolDKfgLNEy8@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a5rfq6i2.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello, Eli.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 19:19:17 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:48:40 +0000
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>

> > Hello, Emacs.

> > On the master branch (and probably any recent Emacs):

> > (i) emacs -Q
> > (ii) C-h v debug-on-error RET
> > (iii) M-: debug-on-error RET

> > >From (ii) it will be seen that debug-on-error's value is nil.
> > (iii) wrongly reports that its value is t.  This is a bug.

> > #########################################################################

> > What is happening here is that eval-expression binds debug-on-error to
> > an uninterned symbol called "t", so that d-o-e will be set to non-nil
> > for the evaluation of the coming form.

> > This has the unwanted side effect of ignoring the actual value of d-o-e
> > in forms which use it.  For example, if the variable is set to a list of
> > error symbols, this value gets ignored on evaluating a form with M-:.

> Aren't we doing this on purpose, Stefan?

Thinking about it more clearly, we're using one variable, debug-on-error,
for two conflicting purposes:
(i) The calling mechanism of execute-extended-command, including the
  invocation of the debugger, should an error be signalled.
(ii) Use in the form to be evaluated, where the variable's value outside
  of execute-extended-command should endure.

It would seem to me we really need two distinct variables for these two
purposes.  I think it's clear that purpose (ii) would be the one to
retain use of debug-on-error.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).





  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-15 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-15 13:48 bug#67196: M-: uses a wrong value of debug-on-error when it is nil Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-15 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-15 17:55   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2023-11-19 17:19     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-19 17:33       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <87a5r9efj0.fsf@dick>
2023-11-19 19:30           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-24 17:10       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-24 18:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-24 20:54           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-24 21:25             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-24 22:21               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-25  7:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 10:32                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-25 11:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 12:40                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-25 13:04                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 14:14                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-25 15:50                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 16:40                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-25 16:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 16:57                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-25 17:36                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-25 18:12                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2023-11-25 14:23                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-17  4:23                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-19  3:54                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-19  5:05                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-25  3:41                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-26  2:39                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-27  4:54                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-25  7:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-24 20:22         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-24 21:33 ` Alan Mackenzie

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