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From: tomas@tuxteam.de
To: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to get a concatenation of the negations with rx (ex: [^a][^b])?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:38:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVCrJbkdmP6oJ8dX@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8U3euLr5Bh-mRvYUqVJGiXBCGZZq=9k_3ghRZsa_+U+AA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 03:28:21PM +0700, Yuri Khan wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 14:27, <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
> 
> > Actually... the complement of a regular language is also a regular
> > language, so there should be a regexp for that, too.
> 
> In all(?) the courses that taught me the theory of regular languages,
> the construction of a negation of a regexp would be suitable as the
> practical part of an exam question sheet.
> 
> As the first step, it is relatively straightforward to build a
> non-deterministic finite state machine from the original regexp; then
> we complement that NDFA’s set of accepting states; and then it’s a
> tedious, error-prone job of building a regexp equivalent to that
> complemented NDFA.

OK -- this was roughly my train of thought: build the NFA, then
invert that... OMG. Then I decided this is better left as an
exercise to the reader.

But since a regexp library is building the NFA anyway, I think
it's surprising that it doesn't support negation. But I haven't
ever tried to implement that; perhaps I'd know the answer then :)

> The regexp thus obtained is often not a pretty sight, either.

I believe you right away on that!

Cheers
-- 
t

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-12 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-11 20:17 How to get a concatenation of the negations with rx (ex: [^a][^b])? Edgar Lux
2023-11-11 21:00 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-13 19:26   ` tomas
2023-11-12  7:03 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-12  7:26   ` tomas
2023-11-12  8:28     ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-12 10:38       ` tomas [this message]
2023-11-12 11:53         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-13  8:46         ` Anders Munch
2023-11-13  9:24           ` tomas
2023-12-24 11:54             ` tomas

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