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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: "Dmitry Gutov" <dmitry@gutov.dev>,
	"Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>,
	"Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2023 13:36:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUzgS1tJfjxTJLAg@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm50xwGDmSRKCm0jqQS33phmyhDrQA8Z2YXyLV2Nxg8=Xbw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, João.

On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 12:40:24 +0000, João Távora wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:49 AM Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> wrote:

> > Improving cl-lib's documentation would be a welcome effort.

> For sure, and not a hard one as well, as all those functions and
> macros are pretty good, often flawless emulations of CL functions that
> are impeccably documented in

>   http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Front/

> Which is of free access (though not of a compatible license, I
> think).  But if people can point to the 5 most confusing functions
> they think are poorly documented, I volunteer to rewrite the
> docstrings for them.

How much are you prepared to do?  I don't have a list of the _most_
confusing doc strings, there are too many to chose from.  But starting
at the start of cl-macs.el, we have:

(i) cl--compiler-macro-list*; completely undocumented.
(ii) cl--simple-expr-p: Talks about "side effects", but not what they
  are side effects of.  Doesn't describe it's parameters or return
  value.  It's unclear what it is that "executes quickly".
(iii) cl--expr-contains: It's unclear what X and Y are, and what "refers
  to" means.
(iv) cl--expr-contains-any; completely undocumented.
(v) cl--expr-depends-p: It's unclear what X and Y are, though Y appears
  to be some sort of container of symbols.  It's unclear what sort of
  "dependency" the function handles, or what "may" means in the context.

There are many more.

> João

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 570+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-13  5:24 [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core Arthur Miller
2023-09-13 14:46 ` Drew Adams
2023-09-14 12:09   ` Arthur Miller
2023-09-15 16:17     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-15 20:04       ` Drew Adams
2023-09-15 20:21         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-16 20:55           ` Drew Adams
2023-09-17 10:08             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-17 14:34               ` Yuri Khan
2023-09-17 23:14                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-17 17:16               ` Drew Adams
2023-09-17 23:48                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-15  8:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-17  0:46   ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-17  4:55     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-17  9:13       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-17  9:54         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-09-17 17:38         ` Drew Adams
2023-09-18 19:38           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-19 10:19           ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-19 10:21         ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-19 11:21           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-19 12:39             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-21 20:27             ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-17  5:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-17  8:54       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-09-17 17:29         ` Drew Adams
2023-09-18 19:40           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-15  1:53       ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-15  2:46         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-15  5:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-15  5:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-17  4:51           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-19  1:28             ` Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways Richard Stallman
2023-10-19  4:14               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-19  4:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19  5:18                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-19  7:56                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19  8:11                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-24  0:59                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-19  7:34                   ` Stephen Berman
2023-10-19  7:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19  8:32                       ` Stephen Berman
2023-10-19  9:04                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-19 13:44                         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-19 14:14                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19 16:11                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-25 22:02                               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-25 22:31                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-26  5:18                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26 11:19                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-26  5:16                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-07 10:51                               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-08 18:01                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-09 11:41                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-09 15:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09 16:10                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-09 16:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09 18:34                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-09 19:48                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21  5:19                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-21  5:19                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-19  5:27               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-19  7:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19 11:19                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-19 12:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-20  3:02                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-20  6:10                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-10-20  6:30                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-20  6:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21 10:18                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-21 15:17                           ` Jens Schmidt
2023-10-21 15:21                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-22  0:52                         ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-22  1:20                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-23  2:08                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-23  2:31                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-23  8:13                             ` Stefan Kangas
     [not found]                         ` <87pm17iilu.fsf@>
2023-10-22  5:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-23 11:07                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-23 11:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-23 12:26                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-23 12:18                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-23 12:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19 12:34                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-19 12:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-19 13:28                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-19 14:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21  3:34                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-10-21  5:21                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-21  7:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21 17:53                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-21 18:03                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-21 20:13                                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-10-25  2:44                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-21 19:00                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21 20:38                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-22  3:40                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-25  2:44                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-25 12:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-25 12:57                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-23  2:12                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-21 12:05                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-23  2:11                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-23 12:54                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-23 14:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-25  2:46                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-25 12:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26  2:27                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-26  6:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26 10:16                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-23 14:06                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-10-23 14:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-23 14:48                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-10-23 14:57                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-23 22:11                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-24  2:31                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24  8:18                                           ` Po Lu
2023-10-24  8:35                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-24  9:04                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-24 11:35                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24 12:41                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-24 12:48                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24 13:01                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-24 13:07                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24 13:33                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-24 13:51                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24 14:31                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-24 15:00                                                               ` Corwin Brust
2023-10-24 18:05                                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-24 19:43                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-25 18:19                                                                   ` Corwin Brust
2023-10-24 11:30                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24 15:44                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-24  8:10                                         ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]                                         ` <87cyx4jva9.fsf@>
2023-10-24 11:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24 12:43                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-24 12:54                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24 15:19                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-24 15:29                                             ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]                                             ` <87ttqghwcs.fsf@>
2023-10-24 15:54                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-24 17:54                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-24 18:36                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-27  2:12                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-27  6:19                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-23 15:07                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-19 17:47                     ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-23  2:08                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-23 11:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-25  2:47                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-25  3:11                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-25  7:57                           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-25  8:07                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-26  2:27                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-26  6:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26  9:31                                 ` Adam Porter
2023-10-26  9:42                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26 10:03                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-26 10:34                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-26 11:32                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-26 19:47                                     ` Bob Rogers
2023-10-26 19:59                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-28  3:20                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-28 15:39                                         ` What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib? Stefan Kangas
2023-10-28 16:18                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-28 18:52                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28 19:08                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-28 19:15                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28 19:36                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-28 19:10                                           ` Jim Porter
2023-10-28 19:14                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-28 21:03                                               ` Jim Porter
2023-10-29  6:10                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-30  2:09                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-30 17:13                                                   ` Jim Porter
2023-10-30  2:09                                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-31  2:31                                             ` Adam Porter
2023-10-31  3:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-31 10:38                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-02  2:28                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-02  2:42                                                   ` Jim Porter
2023-11-02  8:55                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-02  9:27                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-02 21:26                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-03  1:51                                                         ` Bob Rogers
2023-11-03  2:21                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-03 19:51                                                             ` Bob Rogers
2023-11-03 20:32                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-03 22:33                                                                 ` Bob Rogers
2023-11-03 22:46                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-04  9:34                                                                     ` Stephen Berman
2023-11-05 18:52                                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-07 16:17                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-08 14:19                                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-08 15:00                                                               ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]                                                               ` <87r0l070jt.fsf@>
2023-11-08 17:18                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-08 17:59                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-08 20:19                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-08 21:10                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-08 23:17                                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-09 10:05                                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-09 11:06                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-09 11:37                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09 12:34                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-09 13:38                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-09 15:05                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09 15:29                                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-09 15:43                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 13:10                                                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 13:57                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 14:07                                                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 14:16                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 14:54                                                                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 16:05                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09 15:39                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-09 15:51                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-09 16:23                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-09 13:45                                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-11-09 14:28                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-09 14:39                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-10  0:02                                                                                 ` Po Lu
2023-11-10  2:23                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-10  2:42                                                                                     ` Po Lu
2023-11-10 11:11                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-11-10 12:52                                                                                         ` Po Lu
2023-11-10 13:08                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-10 13:39                                                                                             ` Po Lu
2023-11-10 14:18                                                                                           ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-10 21:05                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-11  1:11                                                                                             ` Po Lu
2023-11-11  1:44                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-11  1:58                                                                                                 ` Po Lu
2023-11-11 15:54                                                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-12  0:22                                                                                                 ` Po Lu
2023-11-11  6:01                                                                                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-11  7:55                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 13:09                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-11 13:17                                                                                                 ` Po Lu
2023-11-11 13:39                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-11 14:06                                                                                                     ` Po Lu
2023-11-11 14:43                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-11-11 13:53                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 14:01                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-11 14:09                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 14:22                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-11-11 14:25                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 14:39                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-11 15:06                                                                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 18:33                                                                                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-11 18:49                                                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 14:53                                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-11 15:51                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 18:07                                                                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-11 20:37                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 20:53                                                                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-12  6:49                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-12  7:22                                                                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-12 11:28                                                                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-14  2:58                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-12  6:59                                                                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-12  8:44                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-13  6:28                                                                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-13 14:56                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-13 16:38                                                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-16  3:04                                                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-11 21:49                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-12  2:36                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-12  6:27                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-12 10:21                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-12 11:22                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-12 14:34                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-12  7:11                                                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-12 22:09                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-12 23:14                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-13  0:25                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-13  1:03                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-13  2:43                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-14  0:41                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-14  2:27                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-11-14  2:44                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-14 10:34                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-14 11:47                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-14 12:14                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-14 12:20                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-14 12:50                                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-14  2:44                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-14  2:48                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-14 15:45                                                                                                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-14 23:11                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-14 23:52                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-15  0:46                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-15  1:07                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-15  1:17                                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-15  1:32                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-15  1:28                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-15 12:14                                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-15 14:05                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-15 15:02                                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-11-15 15:29                                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-15 19:12                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-15 19:56                                                                                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-15 23:25                                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-16  0:28                                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-16  5:45                                                                                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-16 14:30                                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-16 16:02                                                                                                                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 16:24                                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-16 17:44                                                                                                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-16 20:06                                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-16 20:12                                                                                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-17 14:16                                                                                                                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-16 20:09                                                                                                                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-16 21:54                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-17  2:44                                                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-11-17  2:47                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-17  7:12                                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-17  6:08                                                                                                                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-17  7:21                                                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-17 16:14                                                                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-11-18  5:58                                                                                                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-20 14:56                                                                                                                                                         ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-11-17 14:45                                                                                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-20 14:30                                                                                                                                                 ` PCL [Re: " Madhu
2023-11-20 14:35                                                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-20 15:13                                                                                                                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-17  2:09                                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-21  2:22                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-16 13:23                                                                                                                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 14:40                                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-16 15:24                                                                                                                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 15:29                                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-16 13:43                                                                                                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 14:36                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-16 15:16                                                                                                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 15:24                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-16 16:42                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-16 17:40                                                                                                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 21:58                                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-17  6:56                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-17 10:44                                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-17 10:47                                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-17 12:22                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-17 13:14                                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-17 15:01                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-17 15:17                                                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-18  6:14                                                                                                                                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-17 14:49                                                                                                                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-17 15:05                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-18  3:03                                                                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-14  6:06                                                                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-13  8:35                                                                                                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-13 11:21                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-14 14:43                                                                                                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-15  5:59                                                                                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-16 15:22                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-12  2:57                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-12  6:45                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-12 19:45                                                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-14  2:58                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-14  3:31                                                                                                       ` Sebastián Monía
2023-11-14 12:29                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-15 18:28                                                                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-16  1:33                                                                                                           ` T.V Raman
2023-11-14  5:05                                                                                                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-14  8:13                                                                                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-11-14 10:38                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-14 10:55                                                                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-11-14 11:47                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-14 14:04                                                                                                               ` Po Lu
2023-11-14 14:19                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-14 15:02                                                                                                                   ` Po Lu
2023-11-14 15:35                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-15  0:13                                                                                                                       ` Po Lu
2023-11-15 10:28                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-15 10:40                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-15 10:56                                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-15 12:36                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-15 13:15                                                                                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-11-15 13:28                                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-15 13:34                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-14 17:40                                                                                                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-11-15  0:53                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-14 16:47                                                                                                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-11-21  2:43                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-03  4:11                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-03 11:55                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2024-01-03 13:59                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-03 12:44                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-12  7:30                                                                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-12 19:48                                                                                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-12 19:58                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-12 22:43                                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2023-11-12 22:59                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-12 23:04                                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2023-11-12 23:44                                                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-15 14:41                                                                                                 ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-11-15 14:51                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-15 21:21                                                                                                     ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-11-16  0:28                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-11-16 14:36                                                                                                         ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-11-16 14:57                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-16 15:42                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-16 16:03                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-11 15:23                                                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 16:03                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 16:41                                                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 16:45                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-11 18:31                                                                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-11 18:30                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-11-11 13:37                                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 13:50                                                                                             ` Po Lu
2023-11-11 13:58                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-11-12  0:18                                                                                                 ` Po Lu
2023-11-11 13:20                                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 18:32                                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-12  0:34                                                                                       ` Po Lu
2023-11-12  2:00                                                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-12  6:56                                                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-11-12 23:59                                                                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-13  5:18                                                                                               ` Po Lu
2023-11-13  6:09                                                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-09 15:23                                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-10  0:31                                                                               ` Po Lu
2023-11-10  2:09                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-10  3:17                                                                                   ` Po Lu
2023-11-10 10:54                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-10 13:14                                                                                       ` Po Lu
2023-11-10 14:18                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-11  0:38                                                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-11-11 12:10                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-11 13:03                                                                                               ` Po Lu
2023-11-11 13:20                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-11 13:35                                                                                                   ` Po Lu
2023-11-11 18:13                                                                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-12  0:25                                                                                               ` Po Lu
2023-11-12  1:52                                                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-12  7:15                                                                                                   ` Po Lu
2023-11-12 23:55                                                                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-13  5:16                                                                                                       ` Po Lu
2023-11-13  6:35                                                                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 18:08                                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-13  3:07                                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-10 21:22                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-11  1:14                                                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-12-05 10:45                                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-10 21:17                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-11  1:23                                                                                       ` Po Lu
2023-11-11  6:11                                                                                         ` tomas
2023-11-11 12:27                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-11-11  6:24                                                                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-11 20:42                                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-12  7:42                                                                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-12 23:22                                                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-13  8:52                                                                                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-13 11:31                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-15 23:26                                                                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-11 12:16                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-11 12:52                                                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-11-10  2:04                                                                             ` Po Lu
2023-11-10  8:20                                                                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-10 10:42                                                                               ` Po Lu
2023-11-10 11:36                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-10 12:12                                                                                   ` Po Lu
2023-11-10 14:39                                                                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-11  0:12                                                                                       ` Po Lu
2023-11-11  6:34                                                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-11  7:49                                                                                           ` Po Lu
2023-11-11  8:01                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-15 14:50                                                                                             ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-11-12  2:57                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-10 14:35                                                                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-10  7:05                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-10 13:16                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-10 14:23                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-10 14:34                                                                               ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-11  1:33                                                                               ` Po Lu
2023-11-09  3:17                                                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-09  3:59                                                                       ` T.V Raman
2023-11-09  7:24                                                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-09 10:34                                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-09 11:48                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-09 12:40                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-09 13:36                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2023-11-09 13:41                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-09 13:59                                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-10 12:13                                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-10 12:53                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-10 13:17                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-10 14:25                                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-10 14:35                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-10 15:11                                                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-10 15:14                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-11-10 15:47                                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-10 16:10                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-11-10 20:24                                                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-11 11:53                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-11-11  6:21                                                                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-11 13:20                                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-11  6:08                                                                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-11 12:50                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-11-13  3:07                                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-09 13:42                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-09 13:07                                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-09 12:19                                                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-09 14:49                                                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-09 15:12                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-09 15:13                                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-09 20:04                                                                             ` Bob Rogers
2023-11-11  3:13                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-11 19:47                                                                                 ` Bob Rogers
2023-11-13  3:07                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-13  5:11                                                                                     ` Bob Rogers
2023-11-15  3:21                                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-09 19:36                                                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-03  2:22                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-03  7:07                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-03  7:48                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-03  7:59                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-03  8:13                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-12  2:57                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-12 11:08                                                       ` Petteri Hintsanen
2023-11-12 11:19                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-12 23:48                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-21  4:20                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-02 11:07                                                   ` João Távora
2023-11-02 11:18                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-02 15:20                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-02 15:31                                                       ` João Távora
2023-11-02 18:28                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-07 16:18                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-07 16:39                                                         ` Drew Adams
2023-11-07 18:16                                                           ` Bob Rogers
2023-11-09  2:35                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-08  5:46                                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-01  1:51                                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-01  1:51                                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-29 16:31                                         ` Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways João Távora
2023-10-29 17:16                                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-10-29 23:19                                             ` João Távora
2023-10-30 14:35                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-30 14:50                                                 ` João Távora
2023-10-30 16:27                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-10-30 16:40                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-01  1:50                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-01 11:16                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-01 12:32                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-01 12:49                                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-01 13:07                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-01 13:17                                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-01 14:09                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-01 14:13                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-01  1:48                                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-01 12:09                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-25 12:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-26  2:27                             ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-26  6:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-25  2:47                         ` Richard Stallman
2023-10-20  7:48     ` [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core Arsen Arsenović
2023-10-20 10:08       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-10-21  8:22         ` Emanuel Berg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-11-03  8:21 What's missing in ELisp that makes, people want to use cl-lib? Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-11-03  9:27 ` João Távora
2023-11-03 10:43   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-11-03 13:37 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-03 14:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-03 15:08     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-03 15:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-03 15:30         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-03 15:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-03 15:49             ` Gerd Möllmann

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