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From: goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	"help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Indentation with spaces
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 20:31:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZT2u3Kwt-rDao551oRwE1U2USVZdZsU-XjJ2o41NgTFGf0ToYQrCfpj3Sp8MlzHJlxbC8eFIElZQKncICFPj-RYQS7sAofxi23b-goHFJTQ=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB5488B3A299BA0AD61B964072F3A99@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>



------- Original Message -------
On Sunday, June 12th, 2022 at 3:43 AM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:


> > At any rate, my rudeness is not important because
> > I am not the one making the emacs decisions.
> > I can only describe my difficulties, that's it.
>
>
> Rudeness can make a difference in the degree to
> which others want to help you when you ask for help.
>
> There are typically some who will always be willing
> to help, to some extent, but you might miss out some.
>
> Whether giving up some rudeness for (possibly) more
> or better help from others is worth it, is of course
> up to the help-requestor to decide.

Can give up some rudeness, sure.  The problem is much more complicated, so it is taking long time for developers to understand the nature of legacy code.  Have any of them really worked with legacy fortran code written by many people.  I mean real legacy from the late 1950's to late 1980's.

Describing why it’s bad, and how to do it in the correct way, is not the answer.  I often see people refer to any fixed-form source as legacy fortran, even if it includes modern features.  That's where people are going wrong.

> ___
>
> The smart-ass kid showed a clenched fist to the
> guru, and asked what was in the fist. The reply:
> a bird. The kid asked whether it was alive or
> dead. The reply: "That's up to you."



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-11 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-08 22:21 Indentation with spaces goncholden via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-08 22:52 ` Skip Montanaro
2022-06-08 23:40   ` goncholden
2022-06-09  1:57     ` Skip Montanaro
2022-06-09  3:08       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09  3:12         ` goncholden
2022-06-09  3:17           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09 12:01             ` goncholden
2022-06-10 10:02               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09  9:51         ` Skip Montanaro
2022-06-09 12:33           ` goncholden
2022-06-09 18:43             ` Lele Gaifax
2022-06-10  9:57             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 10:29             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 18:43               ` goncholden
2022-06-11  4:37               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-11  5:38                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  6:16               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-09 13:37           ` goncholden
2022-06-09 13:49             ` goncholden
2022-06-09 16:06               ` tomas
2022-06-10 10:08               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10  9:45           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 17:57             ` goncholden
2022-06-10 18:08               ` tomas
2022-06-10 18:12                 ` goncholden
2022-06-10 18:33                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 18:46                     ` goncholden
2022-06-10 18:40                   ` tomas
2022-06-10 18:53                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 19:05                       ` goncholden
2022-06-10 19:27                         ` goncholden
2022-06-11  0:56                       ` goncholden
2022-06-10 18:29               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09 13:27         ` Po Lu
2022-06-09 15:44           ` goncholden
2022-06-10 10:20             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 10:16           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 11:35             ` Po Lu
2022-06-10 18:26               ` goncholden
2022-06-11  0:57                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-11  1:05                   ` goncholden
2022-06-11  1:17                     ` Po Lu
2022-06-11  1:33                       ` goncholden
2022-06-11  1:36                         ` goncholden
2022-06-11  7:38                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  7:44                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  8:26                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  7:57                             ` goncholden
2022-06-11  8:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  9:07                                 ` goncholden
2022-06-11 10:10                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 15:43                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-11 20:31                                     ` goncholden [this message]
2022-06-12  2:21                                       ` Drew Adams
2022-06-12  3:08                                         ` goncholden
2022-06-12  6:42                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  1:49                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  2:05                         ` goncholden
2022-06-10 23:01               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  0:00                 ` goncholden
2022-06-11  7:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11  0:58                 ` Po Lu
2022-06-11  1:41                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09 19:01         ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-09 20:16           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-09 20:20             ` goncholden
2022-06-11  5:16             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  5:33               ` tomas
2022-06-11  5:44                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-11  5:51               ` goncholden
2022-06-11 15:43               ` Drew Adams
2022-06-12  4:45                 ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-13  5:04                 ` [External] : " Emanuel Berg
2022-06-10 10:29           ` reinventing the wheel but not faculty, libraries (was: Re: Indentation with spaces) Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09  5:30     ` Indentation with spaces Eli Zaretskii

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