On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 09:58:20PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
> > Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 11:14:28 -0400
> > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > 
> > > If you don't like the default colors themselves, isn't it better to
> > > customize the faces to use the colors you like?
> > 
> > Properly done, that is an enormous undertaking.
> 
> Not if you only ever customize the faces you care about.  Let's not
> gratuitously exaggerate the problem, okay?

I think you're being a bit unfair here: the original problem
description is perfectly valid and John's observation seems
quite adequate.

For someone who has been happy with a set of defaults up to
now (for whatever set of reasons: habituation may be in there),
it can be jarring if those defaults change. That user perhaps
doesn't know how Emacs manages faces. Finding their way to
"customize the faces they care about" is the first challenge.
Finding the set of those may develop to a happy game of whack-
a-mole.

> > Just take a look at the work Protesilaos has put into creating
> > themes covering large numbers of emacs packages.
> 
> Themes customize most if not all faces, something individual users
> will never need to do.
> 
> Of course, the best is to just use the defaults: they are, after all,
> well thought-out...

I seriously hope this is tongue-in-cheek.

Cheers
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t