From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62233: Using Emacs Lisp Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 06:46:22 +0300 Message-ID: References: <933663386.985655.1679037995911.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <933663386.985655.1679037995911@mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30632"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: 62233@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrew Goh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 18 04:49:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pdNZI-0007nl-LQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2023 04:49:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdNZ3-0002By-4N; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 23:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdNZ1-0002BP-5U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 23:49:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pdNZ0-0002UE-Sz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 23:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pdNZ0-0003Lc-PR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 23:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62233 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62233-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62233.167911130312742 (code B ref 62233); Sat, 18 Mar 2023 03:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62233) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Mar 2023 03:48:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45966 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pdNYN-0003JL-Cx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 23:48:23 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:37515) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pdNYK-0003Is-V3 for 62233@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 23:48:21 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.14.94]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000F5861.0000000064153488.000035DD; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 20:48:24 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <933663386.985655.1679037995911@mail.yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:258120 Archived-At: * Andrew Goh via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [2023-03-17 10:29]: > I was wondering if the FSF can turn Emacs Lisp into a tool that is > as easy to use as two of Thanks. Can you tell what it means "as easy to use"? Can you describe what makes it easy? > these mainstream Lisp environments - Allegro Common Lisp and > LispWorks. They may be "main" in proprietary world, where commercial companies dictate over their users, while in free software world, they can't compare. I guess that SBLC could be the main free software Common Lisp implementation. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/