From: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
To: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
Cc: 75275@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#75275: 30.0.92; `make-thread` bug on macOS 15.2
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 15:55:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z3a2-RmDhLWYWBoU@faroe.holly.idiocy.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2pll5grbk.fsf@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 04:37:19PM +0100, Gerd Möllmann wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 11:03:50 +0000
> >> From: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
> >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, stefankangas@gmail.com,
> >> 75275@debbugs.gnu.org
> >>
> >> > > I don't know. Is there anything in the following code that can be
> >> > > relevant to a non-main thread? Note that non-main threads can
> >> > > legitimately call wait_reading_process_output, which calls ns_select.
> >> > > For example, what happens if a non-main Lisp thread starts a
> >> > > sub-process? we do expect to be able to read the output from that
> >> > > sub-process.
> >>
> >> My take on how this works was that in a non-main thread ns_select
> >> should just act like pselect, hence it used to literally just call
> >> pselect and return.
> >
> > In general, this is not right: calls to ns_select are expected to call
> > thread_select, in all threads, so that other threads could get a
> > chance on grabbing the global lock while this (non-main) thread waits
> > for sub-process output.
>
> I think Alan meant thread_select(pselect, ...) because that's what is
> already done in ns_select_1.
Yes, sorry. What Gerd said.
> But... when I look at fd_handler, that function calls pselect directly.
>
> result = pselect (nfds, &readfds, wfds, NULL, tmo, NULL);
>
>
> Can that be right?
I think that's OK as we've already called thread_select further up.
I've a vague memory of putting this in as a work-around.
We call thread_select with a zero timeout to give other threads a
chance to grab the lock, then carry on as normal, running the run loop
and fd_handler which calls pselect.
To be fair, though, I think when we set this up I didn't understand
the code as well as I do now, so perhaps it was the wrong thing to do.
--
Alan Third
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-02 4:57 bug#75275: 30.0.92; `make-thread` bug on macOS 15.2 Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 5:46 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 5:55 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 6:47 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 7:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 14:38 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:45 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 16:06 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 16:47 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:09 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 17:25 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:42 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 17:48 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:37 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 17:46 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 17:52 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 19:26 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 19:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 16:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 7:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 7:30 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 8:33 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 8:41 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:04 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 11:03 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 13:05 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 13:53 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 14:03 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 14:17 ` Alan Third
2025-01-02 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 15:37 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 15:55 ` Alan Third [this message]
2025-01-02 16:08 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 8:51 ` Gerd Möllmann
2025-01-02 7:31 ` Stefan Kangas
2025-01-02 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-02 10:31 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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