From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58224: 29.0.50; "make bootstrap" spuriously warns: "comp.el newer than byte-compiled file" Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 10:43:44 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83fsg7bnt0.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0zqahqj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4779"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, 58224@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 12:44:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oewSR-00015x-29 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:44:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53512 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oewSP-0008K5-Uy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 06:44:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57830) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oewS4-0008HL-3w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 06:44:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47249) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oewS3-0004M8-3a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 06:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oewS1-0006An-Ic for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 06:44:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Mackenzie Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 10:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58224 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 58224-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58224.166470743523710 (code B ref 58224); Sun, 02 Oct 2022 10:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 58224) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2022 10:43:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oewRu-0006AM-Jp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 06:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mx3.muc.de ([193.149.48.5]:52305) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oewRr-0006A8-L0 for 58224@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 06:43:52 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 94247 invoked by uid 3782); 2 Oct 2022 12:43:45 +0200 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p2e5d502a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.93.80.42]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:43:45 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3559 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Oct 2022 10:43:44 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83r0zqahqj.fsf@gnu.org> X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:244198 Archived-At: Hello, Eli. On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 08:59:16 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 21:15:46 +0000 > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 58224@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de > > From: Alan Mackenzie > > I've hacked a quick fix together. The idea is to give the variable > > force-load-messages an extra possibility, 'never. This suppresses the > > messages we want to suppress. > Instead of inventing a new value that overrides the non-nil value, why > not simply reset the variable to nil? force-load-messages is nil by default, and currently isn't used at all by Emacs. It seems to be a pure debugging variable. The NOMESSAGE argument to Fload when non-nil, causes the unwanted message: Source file `foo.el' newer than byte-compiled file; using older file .. When NOMESSAGE is nil, we get instead Loading foo.elc (compiled; note, source file is newer)... .. Whichever setting of NOMESSAGE and force-load-messages we use, we get one of the above messages displayed. So, I'm proposing using a new value 'never for force-load-messages to mean display neither of these messages. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).