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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>,
	Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: master 60102016e4: Abolish max-specpdl-size (bug#57911)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 14:56:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YynUnZiaHh4ue5rr@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9311F07F-9D1C-41F5-9D39-0B6233CA6A55@acm.org>

Hello, Mattias.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 14:49:40 +0200, Mattias Engdegård wrote:
> 20 sep. 2022 kl. 14.15 skrev Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>:

> > Tramp needs this for Emacs 26. I've wrapped it with `with-no-warnings'.

> Thank you, but maybe silencing all warnings in the affected code was a
> cudgel heavier than the situation called for?  Perhaps something like
> this would do:

> > (defmacro tramp--with-max-specpdl-size (new-limit &rest body)
> >   (declare (indent 1))
> >   (if (< emacs-major-version 29)
> >       `(let ((max-specpdl-size ,new-limit)) . ,body)
> >     `(progn . ,body))))

> Or we could postpone the obsoletion for a while. The change was made
> partly for user convenience, but the typically package maintainer may
> not agree that this has been achieved: there is no way to be avoid
> warnings in code that has to work on previous Emacs versions without
> making it uglier.

> Would it be a bad idea to, say, make a note to obsolete
> max-specpdl-size in Emacs 31? 

I suspect it would go the same way as font-lock-reference-face did.  That
face was renamed to font-lock-constant-face in the early 1990s, with an
alias.  People just continued to use the alias.

If you postpone the obsoletion of m-s-s to Emacs 31, the code using it
probably won't change until then.  :-(

I suspect I am going to implement a macro something like:

(defmacro c-maybe-max-specpdl-size-let (varlist &rest body)
  (let ((-varlist- varlist) msp-binding)
    (if (get 'max-specpdl-size 'byte-obsolete-variable)
        (cond
         ((memq 'max-specpdl-size -varlist-)
          (setq -varlist- (delq 'max-spec-pdl-size -varlist-)))
         ((setq msp-binding (assq 'max-spec-pdl-size -varlist-))
          (setq -varlist- (delq msp-binding -varlist-)))))
    `(let ,varlist ,@body)))

..  Which points out a deficit in Emacs, namely the lack of functions
obsolete-variable-p and obsolete-function-p.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-20 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <166360889903.6127.6574959318930089210@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20220919173459.EC224C00872@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-09-19 18:50   ` master 60102016e4: Abolish max-specpdl-size (bug#57911) Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-20 12:15     ` Michael Albinus
2022-09-20 12:18       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-20 12:49       ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-09-20 13:07         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-20 13:14         ` Michael Albinus
2022-09-20 14:56         ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2022-09-23  8:32           ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-09-27  8:47     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-09-27  9:01       ` bug#57911: " Mattias Engdegård
2022-09-27 10:14         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-09-27  8:47     ` Alan Mackenzie

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