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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unicode characters for transcribing to pdf
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2022 06:39:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YxV9gYM9IuoebNdE@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsh6hjgj.fsf@gmail.com>

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On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 12:16:31AM +0200, Alessandro Bertulli wrote:
> 
> Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > `LaTeX-mode-map`, like most package variables, is only defined once
> > its package is actually loaded, which is done lazily in response to the
> > use of the package (e.g. opening a LaTeX file).
> >
> > So it's normal that `LaTeX-mode-map` is not defined when your init file
> > is loaded.  This is on purpose to try and speed up Emacs's startup.
> >
> > You can use things like:
> >
> >     (with-eval-after-load 'latex
> >       (define-key LaTeX-mode-map (kbd "C-c a") #'my-bar)
> >       (define-key LaTeX-mode-map (kbd "C-c b") #'my-foo))
> 
> You honestly opened a world to me. I have long wondered the difference
> between require and with-eval-after-load (of course I could have read
> the docs, but I never found time). :-)
> 
> > or
> >
> >     (defun my-latex-setup ()
> >       (define-key LaTeX-mode-map (kbd "C-c a") #'my-bar)
> >       (define-key LaTeX-mode-map (kbd "C-c b") #'my-foo))
> >     (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook #'my-latex-setup)
> >
> > in order to delay the customization to after the variable is defined.
> 
> Isn't this redundant? You call the function every time a LaTeX file is
> loaded. The first method is preferrable, right?

I think they are doing different things. There are things you want to
happen on each buffer when and once it becomes a "LaTeX buffer". Setting
buffer-local variables comes to mind.

And to nitpick a bit more: it doesn't happen when a LaTeX file is loaded,
but when LaTeX mode is "switched on", that can happen in other occassions
too (when creating a new buffer you know it will be LaTeX, but you can
also switch the mode on and off; LaTeX isn't a good example for the second).

Cheers
-- 
t

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-05  4:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-31 14:32 Unicode characters for transcribing to pdf wilnerthomas--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-08-31 15:28 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-08-31 16:04   ` uzibalqa
2022-08-31 16:31     ` Eric S Fraga
2022-08-31 16:49       ` uzibalqa
2022-08-31 17:27 ` tomas
2022-08-31 21:37 ` Joost Kremers
2022-09-01  4:18   ` uzibalqa
2022-09-01  9:12     ` Alessandro Bertulli
2022-09-01 12:04       ` Arash Esbati
2022-09-03 10:58         ` Alessandro Bertulli
2022-09-03 18:24           ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-09-04  6:32             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-05 11:44               ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-09-04 22:16             ` Alessandro Bertulli
2022-09-05  4:39               ` tomas [this message]
2022-09-05  9:16                 ` Alessandro Bertulli
2022-09-05 18:51                   ` tomas
2022-09-05 11:45               ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-09-05 14:43               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <87edwve99q.fsf@gmail.com-NAsW-xw----2>
2022-09-01 11:35       ` wilnerthomas--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-09-03 10:54         ` Alessandro Bertulli
2022-09-01 13:05   ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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