From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 15:39:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83tu5wy7jb.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7w4xxhq.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24864"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Gregory Heytings , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 28 17:40:42 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKOv-0006MW-DI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 17:40:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53814 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKOt-0005mz-Vt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 11:40:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKNW-0003wB-46 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 11:39:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.muc.de ([193.149.48.3]:21385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSKNT-0004sY-H1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 11:39:13 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 88048 invoked by uid 3782); 28 Aug 2022 17:39:10 +0200 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p2e5d5a4e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.93.90.78]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 17:39:09 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 13272 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Aug 2022 15:39:09 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83o7w4xxhq.fsf@gnu.org> X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.3; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294250 Archived-At: Hello, Eli. On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 17:18:25 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 13:00:44 +0000 > > From: Gregory Heytings > > cc: Alan Mackenzie , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Why not? The Linux console is abysmally inadequate for Emacs, from > > > where I stand. > > Indeed. It's not clear to me why we are having this discussion. With > > fbterm, the Linux console is on the par with most terminal emulators. > > FTR, here are two screenshots of Emacs' HELLO file, one with Emacs running > > in a raw console, and one with Emacs running inside fbterm. > > Eli, is the attached patch okay? Or is there a better place for that > > information (efaq.texi, perhaps?)? > I think both? > For PROBLEMS, the entry is OK, but please change "it is recommended" > to say "we recommend". > Btw, does fbterm warrant or need a file in lisp/term/ ? > And what does tty-type return when running Emacs on fbterm? On my system, it returns "fbterm". -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).