Re: Academic workflow with old PDFs

Re: Academic workflow with old PDFs

[Alessandro Bertulli]

Sorry if that bothered you :-)

> Guys, no one uses the word "academia" any more.

> It is called higher education, university, research, science
> and maybe other words as well depending on context, but not
> that one.

Dunno, in Italy it's still used sometimes, I just assumed it was canon.

> Guys, there are there levels:
> 
>   Bachelor
>   Master
>   Ph.D.

True, point is that "Master" has a different meaning in Italy, so I
always specify MS as "Master of Science", to disambiguate.

> Guys ...

Here I suspect you are referring to the use of "academia" again

Alessandro

Re: Academic workflow with old PDFs

[Emanuel Berg]

Alessandro Bertulli wrote:

>> It is called higher education, university, research,
>> science and maybe other words as well depending on context,
>> but not that one.
>
> Dunno

nno.

> in Italy it's still used sometimes, I just assumed it
> was canon.

Italy has a history of being a bit "behind", this has as often
been good as it has been bad, however in this case "academic"
brings the thoughts to a stinking professor of English
literature who cannot do laundry, this obviously has nothing
to do with the theoretic superstructure of very practical
things like technology and engineering. Even in language you
may have heard phrases like "the debate has been largely
academic" meaning without substance and not of practical
relevance. (Not that there is anything wrong with
English literature.)

>> Guys, there are there levels:
>> 
>>   Bachelor
>>   Master
>>   Ph.D.
>
> True, point is that "Master" has a different meaning in
> Italy, so I always specify MS as "Master of Science",
> to disambiguate.

Well, the international language - English;
the language of science, very international indeed - English;
the language of computers - English (US English in terms of speeling);
the language of your post and my reply - English;
"Master" - an English word ...

>> Guys ...
>
> Here I suspect you are referring to the use of "academia"
> again

If you woold specify what tasks in general and what features
in particular you look for to carry out those tasks, there is
no "academic workflow". But, you said it in subsequent
messages and to some some extent in the first post as well so
yeah, it is enough we cross that from the proceedings ...

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[tomas]

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:00:24AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Alessandro Bertulli wrote:
> 
> >> It is called higher education, university, research,
> >> science and maybe other words as well depending on context,
> >> but not that one.
> >
> > Dunno
> 
> nno.
> 
> > in Italy it's still used sometimes, I just assumed it
> > was canon.
> 
> Italy has a history of being a bit "behind" [...]

Whatever. The thread used to be interesting. Now it's about
Emanuel's perception on  a word's usage. I'm out.

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Re: Academic workflow with old PDFs

[Alessandro Bertulli]

> Italy has a history of being a bit "behind"

Well, first of all, thank you :-)

> [...] however in this case "academic"
> brings the thoughts to a stinking professor of English
> literature who cannot do laundry, this obviously has nothing
> to do with the theoretic superstructure of very practical
> things like technology and engineering. Even in language you
> may have heard phrases like "the debate has been largely
> academic" meaning without substance and not of practical
> relevance. (Not that there is anything wrong with
> English literature.)

Surely you know English language better than me, so I don't question
here.

> Well, the international language - English;
> the language of science, very international indeed - English;
> the language of computers - English (US English in terms of speeling);
> the language of your post and my reply - English;
> "Master" - an English word ...

You're right, my point is that "Master of Science" is English enough:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Science

> If you woold specify what tasks in general and what features
> in particular you look for to carry out those tasks, there is
> no "academic workflow". But, you said it in subsequent
> messages and to some some extent in the first post as well so
> yeah, it is enough we cross that from the proceedings ...

Here my bad, I should have asked a narrower question. Looking back, I'd
say you're right, my first question was if it was possible (in the
community's opinion) to study old, scanned, poorly indexed PDFs with
pdf-tools, and if not, what other tools do you use. I should have been
more focused, I apologize.

Alessandro

Re: Academic workflow with old PDFs

[Eduardo Ochs]

On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 at 18:03, Alessandro Bertulli
<alessandro.bertulli96@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here my bad, I should have asked a narrower question. Looking back, I'd
> say you're right, my first question was if it was possible (in the
> community's opinion) to study old, scanned, poorly indexed PDFs with
> pdf-tools, and if not, what other tools do you use. I should have been
> more focused, I apologize.

Hi Alessandro,

my favorite tool for indexing PDFs - and that I use even for PDFs that
only contain photos of whiteboards, and that are totally unOCRizable -
is the module of eev that is explained in this tutorial,

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-pdf-like-intro.html

and in the video whose index is here:

  http://angg.twu.net/.emacs.videos.html#eev2020

Look for the lines in the index that look like these ones,

  (find-eev2020video "4:52" "`find-pdf-page' calls an external program")
  (find-eev2020video "5:26" "`find-pdf-text' converts the PDF to text and")
  (find-eev2020video "10:45" "`code-pdf-page' creates a short
hyperlink function for a PDF")
  (find-eev2020video "11:38" "let's try...")
  (find-eev2020video "11:55" "`find-fongspivatext'")
  (find-eev2020video "12:25" "This block is a kind of an index for that book")
  (find-eev2020video "12:54" "This block is a kind of an index for that video")

and click on the links with the timemarks...

If that looks like something that you would like to try then send me
an e-mail and let's see if we can arrange to chat by IRC or by some
other means!

  Cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs
    http://angg.twu.net/#eev

Re: Academic workflow with old PDFs

[tomas]

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On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 11:08:33PM +0200, Alessandro Bertulli wrote:
> Sorry if that bothered you :-)
> 
> > Guys, no one uses the word "academia" any more.
> 
> > It is called higher education, university, research, science
> > and maybe other words as well depending on context, but not
> > that one.
> 
> Dunno, in Italy it's still used sometimes, I just assumed it was canon.

I use it all the time.

Cheers
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