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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Redisplay hook error backtraces
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 18:18:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YtGvZqw0z96tM0ZQ@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83tu7isz4w.fsf@gnu.org>

Hello, everybody.

I know that there are technical issues in the code still to be thrashed
out, but the new backtrace facility needs documentation.  I've written
some and a proposed patch (for debugging.texi and NEWS) is below.

I've come to see that `backtrace-on-redisplay-lisp-error', although
accurate, is too much of a mouthful, and I think it needs shortening.
Would anybody object to me just calling this variable `debug-redisplay'?

Also, I think that writing the backtrace into *Backtrace* is a bad idea,
now.  Users expect such a buffer to have active facilities, whereas the
new backtrace is just a dead dump.  Is there any objection to me instead
calling the buffer something like "*Redisplay-trace*"?



diff --git a/doc/lispref/debugging.texi b/doc/lispref/debugging.texi
index 058c931954..3f9c9fea50 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/debugging.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/debugging.texi
@@ -77,6 +77,7 @@ Debugger
 
 @menu
 * Error Debugging::       Entering the debugger when an error happens.
+* Debugging Redisplay::   Getting backtraces from redisplay hook errors.
 * Infinite Loops::        Stopping and debugging a program that doesn't exit.
 * Function Debugging::    Entering it when a certain function is called.
 * Variable Debugging::    Entering it when a variable is modified.
@@ -105,6 +106,10 @@ Error Debugging
 (The command @code{toggle-debug-on-error} provides an easy way to do
 this.)
 
+Note that, for technical reasons, you cannot use the facilities
+defined in this subsection to debug errors in hooks the redisplay code
+has invoked.  @xref{Debugging Redisplay} for help with these.
+
 @defopt debug-on-error
 This variable determines whether the debugger is called when an error
 is signaled and not handled.  If @code{debug-on-error} is @code{t},
@@ -213,6 +218,52 @@ Error Debugging
 bypasses the @code{condition-case} which normally catches errors in the
 init file.
 
+@node Debugging Redisplay
+@subsection Debugging Redisplay Hooks
+@cindex redisplay hooks
+@cindex debugging redisplay hooks
+
+When a Lisp error occurs in a hook function which redisplay has
+invoked, you cannot use Emacs's usual debugging mechanisms, for
+technical reasons.  This subsection describes how to get a backtrace
+from such an error, information which should be helpful in debugging
+it.
+
+Note that if you have had such an error, the error handling will
+likely have removed the function causing it from its hook.  You will
+thus need to reinitialize that hook somehow, perhaps with
+@code{add-hook}, to be able to replay the bug.
+
+The hooks which these directions apply to are the following:
+@enumerate
+@item
+@code{fontification-functions} (@pxref{Auto Faces}).
+@item
+@code{set-message-function} (@pxref{Displaying Messages}).
+@item
+@code{clear-message-function} (@pxref{Displaying Messages}).
+@item
+@code{pre-redisplay-function} (@pxref{Forcing Redisplay}).
+@item
+@code{pre-redisplay-functions} (@pxref{Forcing Redisplay}).
+@item
+@code{menu-bar-update-hook} (@pxref{Menu Bar}).
+@item
+@code{window-scroll-functions} (@pxref{Window Hooks}).
+@end enumerate
+
+To generate a backtrace in these circumstances, set the variable
+@code{backtrace-on-redisplay-lisp-error} to non-@code{nil}.  When the
+error occurs, Emacs will dump the backtrace to the buffer
+@file{*Backtrace*}.  This buffer is not automatically displayed in a
+window; you will need to display it yourself, with a command such as
+@code{switch-to-buffer-other-frame} (@key{C-x 5 b}).
+
+@defvar backtrace-on-redisplay-lisp-error
+Set this variable to non-@code{nil} to enable the generation of a
+backtrace when errors occur in any of the above hooks.
+@end defvar
+
 @node Infinite Loops
 @subsection Debugging Infinite Loops
 @cindex infinite loops
diff --git a/etc/NEWS b/etc/NEWS
index c2900b0bc4..0196d55306 100644
--- a/etc/NEWS
+++ b/etc/NEWS
@@ -1227,6 +1227,13 @@ When invoked with a non-zero prefix argument, as in 'C-u C-x C-e',
 this command will pop up a new buffer and show the full pretty-printed
 value there.
 
++++
+*** It is now possible to generate a backtrace from errors in redisplay
+hooks.  To do this, set the new variable
+'backtrace-on-redisplay-lisp-error' to a non-nil value.  The backtrace
+will be written to buffer *Backtrace*, but this buffer will not be
+automatically displayed in a window.
+
 ** Compile
 
 +++


-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-15 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-25 13:42 Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace? Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 15:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 15:30   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-25 15:52     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 16:27       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-06-25 15:35   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-25 15:59     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-25 16:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-25 19:45         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-26  5:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-27 19:48             ` Fontification error backtrace [Was: Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace?] Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-28 11:43               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-28 11:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-28 17:28                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-28 18:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-28 19:31                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-29 19:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 19:48                         ` Redisplay hook error bactraces [Was: Fontification error backtrace] Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 12:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 18:41                             ` Redisplay hook error backtraces Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 19:00                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 20:12                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 20:49                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-14  5:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14  9:01                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14  9:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 13:42                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 13:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 16:07                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 16:18                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-14 19:47                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-14 20:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-15  5:50                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-15 18:18                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2022-07-16  6:03                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 17:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-14 19:33                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-16  6:12                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-16 15:45                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 19:13                           ` Redisplay hook error bactraces [Was: Fontification error backtrace] Stefan Monnier
2022-07-13 19:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-13 19:58                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-13 20:45                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-30 20:34                       ` Fontification error backtrace [Was: Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace?] Stefan Monnier
2022-07-01  5:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 15:34                           ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-01 16:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-01 19:14                               ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-01 19:26                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-02  5:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-02 21:15                               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-02 20:27                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-02 21:12                           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-26  8:45 ` Why is it so difficult to get a Lisp backtrace? Stefan Monnier

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