From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
56305@debbugs.gnu.org, acm@muc.de
Subject: bug#56305: 29.0.50; 'yes-or-no-p' deselects minibuffer frame
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:01:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YsyBsMpS1LovrmmO@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk08j60ut.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Hello, Stefan.
On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 13:06:40 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Apologies: the doc string for select-window virtually says it grabs the
> > focus. Couldn't we go the whole way, and explicitly state that
> > select-window is really "select-window-set-input-focus"?
> This sounds problematic at the very least for cases like
> `with-selected-window` and `save-window-excursion`, where we don't
> really want the code to "set and (un/re)set" the focus. And similarly
> when code does `select-window` while Emacs doesn't have focus at all.
Actually, at the moment I don't believe that select-window does grab the
focus. I've been a bit confused about this over the last day or so.
> We do have a kind of messy situation w.r.t distinguishing the notion of
> selected-frame (and selected-window to some extend) from its interaction
> with window-manager focus. But I'm not sure we can (nor should) really
> unify the two.
No. But if we did, it would be via an extra argument `no-focus' to
select-window. I still say no.
> Stefan
--
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2022-06-29 17:54 bug#56305: 29.0.50; 'yes-or-no-p' deselects minibuffer frame martin rudalics
2022-06-29 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-30 10:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-30 20:32 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-02 11:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-03 8:16 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-03 16:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-03 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-04 19:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-04 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-04 19:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-05 2:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-05 15:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-05 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-05 17:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 17:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 18:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-06 18:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-07-06 19:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-06 19:09 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-07-06 19:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-07 17:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-07 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-08 21:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-09 2:15 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-07 7:55 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-07 9:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-08 7:01 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-08 10:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-08 11:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-08 18:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-09 8:36 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-08 21:45 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-07-09 8:35 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-09 10:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10 8:07 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-10 11:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10 11:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-10 12:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-10 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-10 16:13 ` Drew Adams
2022-07-10 16:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 7:45 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-11 11:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-12 7:33 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-12 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 16:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 17:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-11 17:34 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-11 20:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-11 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-11 20:01 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2022-07-12 7:35 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-12 14:56 ` Drew Adams
2022-07-16 7:06 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-16 20:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-18 7:36 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-18 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-19 8:09 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-19 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-16 23:39 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-17 11:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-17 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-17 15:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-18 7:37 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-18 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-18 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-18 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-18 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19 20:48 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20 12:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-20 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-21 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-19 8:09 ` martin rudalics
2022-07-07 15:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-07-04 19:46 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-07-04 19:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
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