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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>,
	"carlmarcos@tutanota.com" <carlmarcos@tutanota.com>,
	Help Gnu Emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: result of completing-read contradicting require-match
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 20:56:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YssS3byuG8JIEdEz@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB548822896FC10800159E7414F3849@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

* Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> [2022-07-10 17:36]:
> > I would like to merge these two functions and use each of them
> > sometimes singly. The third merged one would check for both values.
> 
> I'm not following this thread.  Just happened to
> read your initial statement, which sounds like
> you want to repeat invoking a function until it
> returns nil or non-nil.
> 
> If so, Emacs already gives you that:
> `run-hook-with-args-until-failure'
> (`*-success' is similar).
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Running-Hooks.html

Looks similar, but not that it works straight how I think it
should. It runs the hook until NIL or non-NIL, and there is no
reliability what it will return. It also has purpose to run eventually
many functions, not just one. 

It is not same as what I use. These functions will return the
value from function that is invoked repeatedly until it gives
some value.

I define "nothing" as non-empty string and not null 

(defun rcd-is-nothing-p (thing)
  "Return TRUE if THING is nothing."
  (cond ((and (stringp thing) (seq-empty-p thing)) t)
	((null thing) t)
	(t nil)))

(defun rcd-repeat-until-something (function &rest args)
  "Repeat FUNCTION with optional ARGS until result is something.

Result shall be non empty string or number."
  (let ((result))
    (while (rcd-is-nothing-p (setq result (apply function args))))
      result))


I use it when for example, I do not want an empty string:

(read-from-minibuffer "Tell me: ") ⇒ ""

What I do not want is empty string, I want to make sure there is some
input, so it would keep asking me until I get selection.

(rcd-repeat-until-something 'read-from-minibuffer "Tell me: ") ⇒ "OK"

Then I have for example country selection:

(rcd-repeat-until-something 'cf-country-select) ⇒ 228

- at this moment I can choose among many countries, I could type
  "UNITED STAT-<TAB>" and get value 228

- but I cannot continue with ENTER in no way. And I do not need any
  defaults.

That spares me programming time and evaluating values, it is less
error prone for user.

Instead of:

(let ((country (cf-country-select)))
  (when country
    (do something)))

or instead of:

(let ((country (cf-country-select)))
  (if country
    (do something)
    (error "You did not select country")))

it is more convient to simply demand that selection is made and be sure of it:

(let ((country (rcd-repeat-until-something 'cf-country-select)))
  (do something with country))

thus I am sparing many `when' and `if' clauses, as it ensures
that function returns "something".


-- 
Jean

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-10 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-02 18:58 result of completing-read contradicting require-match carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-02 19:20 ` Jean Louis
2022-07-02 19:54   ` Yuri Khan
2022-07-02 20:07     ` Jean Louis
2022-07-02 20:38       ` Yuri Khan
2022-07-02 21:58         ` Jean Louis
2022-07-09 13:17     ` Jean Louis
2022-07-10 14:36       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-07-10 17:56         ` Jean Louis [this message]
2022-07-02 21:13   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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