bug#56492: 29.0.50; dired not updating, ! acts weird during long Emacs session

bug#56492: 29.0.50; dired not updating, ! acts weird during long Emacs session

[Jean Louis]

These bugs are taking place in a long Emacs session, and I cannot know
why exactly:

- I am using deleting by moving to trash, and sometimes I use d to
  delete file, then I see Trashing, but dired bufffer remains same
  without being reverted, I remain with file in the list marked with
  red or with D, and I can repeat action of deletion even if file does
  not exist. Maybe deletion function should verify if file exists?

- If file is Preview.pdf I can see in message buffer Trash
  Downloads/Preview.pdf y/n question, which is weird, as I am in
  ~/Downloads directory and I am offered "Downloads/Preview.pdf"
  question while otherwise it should be only Preview.pdf




In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 11, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.17.6, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2022-06-25 built on protected.rcdrun.com
Repository revision: 040c03cae2db361d2e014a52d969a6b0ebc48f1c
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101003
System Description: Parabola GNU/Linux-libre

Configured using:
 'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ
JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NOTIFY
INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP X11 XAW3D XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=exwm-xim
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

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  erc-fill-mode: t
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  erc-noncommands-mode: t
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  erc-move-to-prompt-mode: t
  erc-readonly-mode: t
  csv-field-index-mode: t
  hpath:find-file-urls-mode: t
  which-key-mode: t
  timeclock-mode-line-display: t
  savehist-mode: t
  save-place-mode: t
  immortal-scratch-mode: t
  async-bytecomp-package-mode: t
  electric-pair-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  display-battery-mode: t
  windmove-mode: t
  persistent-scratch-autosave-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  hyperbole-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  column-number-mode: t
  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

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bug#56492: 29.0.50; dired not updating, ! acts weird during long Emacs session

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

> - I am using deleting by moving to trash, and sometimes I use d to
>   delete file, then I see Trashing, but dired bufffer remains same
>   without being reverted, I remain with file in the list marked with
>   red or with D, and I can repeat action of deletion even if file does
>   not exist. Maybe deletion function should verify if file exists?

Do you have a recipe to reproduce the issue?

> - If file is Preview.pdf I can see in message buffer Trash
>   Downloads/Preview.pdf y/n question, which is weird, as I am in
>   ~/Downloads directory and I am offered "Downloads/Preview.pdf"
>   question while otherwise it should be only Preview.pdf

What is the message exactly?

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bug#56492: 29.0.50; dired not updating, ! acts weird during long Emacs session

[Jean Louis]

* Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> [2022-07-11 12:55]:
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> 
> > - I am using deleting by moving to trash, and sometimes I use d to
> >   delete file, then I see Trashing, but dired bufffer remains same
> >   without being reverted, I remain with file in the list marked with
> >   red or with D, and I can repeat action of deletion even if file does
> >   not exist. Maybe deletion function should verify if file exists?
> 
> Do you have a recipe to reproduce the issue?

It works well in beginning. I do not change my packages. Then after
some time it starts behaving that way.

It is difficult to say what is causing it as it is happening in longer
running Emacs session.

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bug#56492: 29.0.50; dired not updating, ! acts weird during long Emacs session

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

>> > - I am using deleting by moving to trash, and sometimes I use d to
>> >   delete file, then I see Trashing, but dired bufffer remains same
>> >   without being reverted, I remain with file in the list marked with
>> >   red or with D, and I can repeat action of deletion even if file does
>> >   not exist. Maybe deletion function should verify if file exists?
>> 
>> Do you have a recipe to reproduce the issue?
>
> It works well in beginning. I do not change my packages. Then after
> some time it starts behaving that way.
>
> It is difficult to say what is causing it as it is happening in longer
> running Emacs session.

It's impossible to make any progress here unless we have a recipe for
the problem, I'm afraid, so I'm closing this bug report.  If you can
come up with one, please open a new bug report.