* what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
@ 2022-06-19 15:28 Jason Vas Dias
2022-06-19 15:40 ` Jason Vas Dias
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From: Jason Vas Dias @ 2022-06-19 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Good day -
I just started using emacs v28.1 today, having been
stuck with v27.2 for a long time, and now my
emacs-lisp scripts that used '(case V (va x) (vb y)...)'
now fail with the error message:
"Symbol's function definition is void: case"
- why this ABI breaking change ?
What was wrong with 'case' ?
Now I have to write my own 'case' macro, I guess?
All the best,
Jason
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* Re: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
2022-06-19 15:28 what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ? Jason Vas Dias
@ 2022-06-19 15:40 ` Jason Vas Dias
2022-06-19 15:40 ` Jason Vas Dias
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From: Jason Vas Dias @ 2022-06-19 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Ah, I see, now it is called 'cl-case' -
what what the rationale behing this change ?
On 19/06/2022, Jason Vas Dias <jason.vas.dias@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good day -
>
> I just started using emacs v28.1 today, having been
> stuck with v27.2 for a long time, and now my
> emacs-lisp scripts that used '(case V (va x) (vb y)...)'
> now fail with the error message:
> "Symbol's function definition is void: case"
> - why this ABI breaking change ?
>
> What was wrong with 'case' ?
>
> Now I have to write my own 'case' macro, I guess?
>
> All the best,
> Jason
>
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* Re: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
2022-06-19 15:40 ` Jason Vas Dias
@ 2022-06-19 15:40 ` Jason Vas Dias
2022-06-19 16:01 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jason Vas Dias @ 2022-06-19 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Oops, in last comment I meant to write:
Ah, I see, now it is called 'cl-case' -
what what the rationale behind this change ?
On 19/06/2022, Jason Vas Dias <jason.vas.dias@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, I see, now it is called 'cl-case' -
> what what the rationale behing this change ?
>
> On 19/06/2022, Jason Vas Dias <jason.vas.dias@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good day -
>>
>> I just started using emacs v28.1 today, having been
>> stuck with v27.2 for a long time, and now my
>> emacs-lisp scripts that used '(case V (va x) (vb y)...)'
>> now fail with the error message:
>> "Symbol's function definition is void: case"
>> - why this ABI breaking change ?
>>
>> What was wrong with 'case' ?
>>
>> Now I have to write my own 'case' macro, I guess?
>>
>> All the best,
>> Jason
>>
>
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* Re: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
2022-06-19 15:40 ` Jason Vas Dias
@ 2022-06-19 16:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-06-19 17:11 ` Bruno Barbier
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2022-06-19 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jason Vas Dias; +Cc: emacs-devel
The case macro has always been defined by the cl library, and that has
not changed.
--
Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1
"And now for something completely different."
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* Re: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
2022-06-19 16:01 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2022-06-19 17:11 ` Bruno Barbier
2022-06-19 17:20 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-19 17:25 ` John Covici
[not found] ` <CALyZvKwb576uHkYTAPPCpwHo3y80zMhZgHqq_yb3e=ORNVCqBA@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Bruno Barbier @ 2022-06-19 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab, Jason Vas Dias; +Cc: emacs-devel
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
> The case macro has always been defined by the cl library, and that has
> not changed.
>
And the 'cl' package has been deprecated in emacs 27 (see etc/NEWS.27).
If you didn't change anything, something was probably loading the 'cl'
package before, and the new version has been fixed to use the 'cl-lib'
package instead, with the clean "cl-" prefix.
The 'cl-lib' has been introduced in emacs 24 (see etc/NEWS.24):
*** CL's main entry is now (require 'cl-lib).
`cl-lib' is like the old `cl' except that it uses the namespace cleanly;
i.e., all its definitions have the "cl-" prefix (and internal definitions
use the "cl--" prefix).
> --
> Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
> GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1
> "And now for something completely different."
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* RE: [External] : Re: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
2022-06-19 17:11 ` Bruno Barbier
@ 2022-06-19 17:20 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-25 12:27 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-19 17:25 ` John Covici
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From: Drew Adams @ 2022-06-19 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruno Barbier, Andreas Schwab, Jason Vas Dias; +Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > The case macro has always been defined by the
> > cl library, and that has not changed.
>
> And the 'cl' package has been deprecated in emacs
> 27 (see etc/NEWS.27).
>
> ... the new version has been fixed to use the 'cl-lib'
> package instead, with the clean "cl-" prefix.
Ah. "the clean 'cl-' prefix"...
No more filthy `case'. Cleanliness is next
to Godotliness. And all it takes is adding
a prefix!
Maybe we should change `when' to `cl-when',
`progn' to `cl-progn', `setq' to `cl-setq',
`car' to `cl-car',...?
;-)
New, improved, spick-and-span Emacs.
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* Re: [External] : Re: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
2022-06-19 17:20 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
@ 2022-06-25 12:27 ` Jean Louis
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From: Jean Louis @ 2022-06-25 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: emacs-tangents
* Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> [2022-06-20 15:09]:
> > > The case macro has always been defined by the
> > > cl library, and that has not changed.
> >
> > And the 'cl' package has been deprecated in emacs
> > 27 (see etc/NEWS.27).
> >
> > ... the new version has been fixed to use the 'cl-lib'
> > package instead, with the clean "cl-" prefix.
>
> Ah. "the clean 'cl-' prefix"...
>
> No more filthy `case'. Cleanliness is next
> to Godotliness. And all it takes is adding
> a prefix!
>
> Maybe we should change `when' to `cl-when',
> `progn' to `cl-progn', `setq' to `cl-setq',
> `car' to `cl-car',...?
>
> ;-)
>
> New, improved, spick-and-span Emacs.
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* Re: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
2022-06-19 17:11 ` Bruno Barbier
2022-06-19 17:20 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
@ 2022-06-19 17:25 ` John Covici
2022-06-19 17:40 ` Bruno Barbier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: John Covici @ 2022-06-19 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruno Barbier; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, Jason Vas Dias, emacs-devel
hmmm, using emacs 28 and probably 27, I do get cl is depricated, but I
have no idea which package is using it or do I need to change
anything?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2022 13:11:00 -0400,
Bruno Barbier wrote:
>
>
>
> Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>
> > The case macro has always been defined by the cl library, and that has
> > not changed.
> >
>
>
> And the 'cl' package has been deprecated in emacs 27 (see etc/NEWS.27).
>
> If you didn't change anything, something was probably loading the 'cl'
> package before, and the new version has been fixed to use the 'cl-lib'
> package instead, with the clean "cl-" prefix.
>
> The 'cl-lib' has been introduced in emacs 24 (see etc/NEWS.24):
>
> *** CL's main entry is now (require 'cl-lib).
> `cl-lib' is like the old `cl' except that it uses the namespace cleanly;
> i.e., all its definitions have the "cl-" prefix (and internal definitions
> use the "cl--" prefix).
>
>
>
>
>
> > --
> > Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
> > GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1
> > "And now for something completely different."
>
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com
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* Re: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
2022-06-19 17:25 ` John Covici
@ 2022-06-19 17:40 ` Bruno Barbier
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bruno Barbier @ 2022-06-19 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: covici; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, Jason Vas Dias, emacs-devel
John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> writes:
> hmmm, using emacs 28 and probably 27, I do get cl is depricated, but I
> have no idea which package is using it or do I need to change
> anything?
I don't know what the experts would say.
My guess: just stop using it in the code you write yourself.
In other words, if you don't know where it's used, you probably
shouldn't care about it.
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* RE: what happened to 'case' in emacs 28 ?
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@ 2022-06-19 20:10 ` Jason Vas Dias
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From: Jason Vas Dias @ 2022-06-19 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
RE: > Andreas Schwb wrote
>The case macro has always been defined by the cl library, and that has
> not changed.
Aha, yes, and since I wrote those scripts & began using case I have
always had :
'(setq inferior-lisp-program "/usr/bin/sbcl")
(add-to-list 'load-path "/usr/share/common-lisp/source/slime" t)
(load (expand-file-name "/usr/share/common-lisp/quicklisp/slime-helper.el")
'
and that loads 'cl' - now I have changed to using
Slime v2.27, a newer version is being used that insists on the 'cl-'
prefix being used.
Thanks to all who responded!
On 19/06/2022, Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> The case macro has always been defined by the cl library, and that has
> not changed.
>
> --
> Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org
> GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1
> "And now for something completely different."
>
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