From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 01:42:39 +0300 Message-ID: References: <83leu3y0hs.fsf@gnu.org> <83h74rxze0.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkuzxvur.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8755"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-05-21) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: goncholden Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 13 08:08:16 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o0dFI-00026T-Et for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 08:08:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43358 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0dFG-00038r-Se for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 02:08:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33800) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0dD1-00037l-KX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 02:05:56 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:50271) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0dCy-0003pk-Bo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2022 02:05:55 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.84.37.119]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000087C62.0000000062A6D3BD.0000341D; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 23:05:48 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: goncholden , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.543, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137763 Archived-At: * goncholden [2022-06-12 23:41]: > Disabling automatic indentation completely must be a single command > operation, with Emacs tracking what electric indentation > functionality is enabled automatically, and disable them without > putting such burdens on the user. Emacs has ended up with an > artificial intelligence machine that takes control away from the > human being, if our intelligence cannot figure out a quick and > direct way to turn off its plug. I guess it is rather helpful to many users. But that is just a guess. For sure I personally prefer many automatic indentations, and that is one of main reasons why I prefer Emacs as editor. For example, I like that I simply press RET and get in the next line of this paragraph. It helps me many times when formatting list items. The way I like it. There are many options in Emacs, and to find the one with indentation is really difficult. I do not think that you would easily find it out without asking on mailing list. That option to turn it off exists, that means you are still in charge. And after using Emacs a lot, when I get into other editor, I feel the same, those editors are taking control over my habits or lack of habits. All those are subjective perceptions, in other words, illusions. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/