From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Netiquette is way to go Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 21:13:50 +0300 Message-ID: References: <83leu3y0hs.fsf@gnu.org> <83h74rxze0.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkuzxvur.fsf@gnu.org> <878rq2gyoc.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36747"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/+ () (2022-05-21) Cc: Po Lu , Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: goncholden Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 12 23:29:32 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o0V9H-0009Pt-V3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 23:29:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54006 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0V9G-0001L0-D1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 17:29:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0V88-0001KV-GF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 17:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:60097) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0V80-0005cK-4R; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 17:28:19 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.84.37.119]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000087C54.0000000062A65A68.00000185; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 14:28:08 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: goncholden , Po Lu , Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -2 X-Spam_score: -0.3 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.592, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137748 Archived-At: * goncholden [2022-06-12 20:50]: > Correct. It is much better than the easy dodging of the problem > that insists on reformatting the whole codebase so as to adhere with > some design spucification of an editor. Because the attitude of > some of the current maintainers is that if I do not like it, choose > another editor so we can continue with our way of doing things. I have fully understood your problem even before reading the subsequent discussion. On this planet we human have specific rules of behavior, manner or etiquette. There is something called netiquette as well, for network related communication. On GNU mailing lists we strive, but not force, to adhere to the below guidelines. GNU Kind Communications Guidelines https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html For me, I totally understand your style of talking and did not find anything offensive. This may be because I have spent time in parts of world with similar communication style. There are parts of world where heavy profanities are used to greet familiar people and it means nothing. I can fully understand Drew and Eli, as your style of talking is simply not proper for everybody and everywhere. You are in global communication exchange. Mailing list spans any countries on the planet. We have different ways of expressing ourselves and we have to find common ways. GNU Kind Communication Guideline is a way to reach that goal. It is good reading books about international business manners, that will give you idea how to get communication across in such way that it does not get rejected due to your local style of expressions. Issue is to find global common and acceptable style of communication. Maybe following references may help further: Etiquette in technology - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology 10 netiquette rules to maintain a good online reputation | NortonLifeLock https://us.norton.com/internetsecurity-kids-safety-what-is-netiquette.html 10 Netiquette Rules to Know and Follow https://www.verywellmind.com/ten-rules-of-netiquette-22285 What is Netiquette? 20 rules Internet Etiquette Rules https://me-en.kaspersky.com/resource-center/preemptive-safety/what-is-netiquette -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/