From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MacOS signing Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:31:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4543fef4-e7ac-8599-0f23-9c65caec5be3@cs.cornell.edu> <838rseaink.fsf@gnu.org> <3480a19d-02da-7424-7361-93b504ed85a8@cs.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36758"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 16 14:33:39 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfhcR-0009DL-55 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:33:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47098 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfhcP-000263-U4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 08:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57620) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfhak-0000pc-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 08:31:55 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound.soverin.net ([116.202.126.228]:60895) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfhah-0001OQ-LF; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 08:31:53 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (unknown [10.10.3.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by outbound.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40C8C42E; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 12:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [10.10.4.100]) by soverin.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=idiocy.org; s=soverin; t=1650112305; bh=aSJn630NWuc5c4g4PC3/Xm7VqGTOG3+U2TuNzaVI8Ws=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=UbDLfyFZ+KjdVYDQ+2QQRLuuiSOQ0H/bwHD+hhhzSJAVehGsGR/s7gRmMQB80R5Y+ JesjTXedJGeXdo4afsU2/PzY1SxeM9Rc8wK20UCS5EifaUF2wS0O87wrxnvTGc0xMk jtHfqVUsi1M1qp55+ULUWaRpdRZCHBwi4s7ofYoHO1NDai/oskzjr36TXFvk+gFROs BkYKEgiH65uVjBZvdR7iKovkuBk84mcHDB4rVeqBuj+ikMSGw2daqcecsdv9BstjIR ldK4brH9wf58YC3CyLG4k0JVwI9pe/fcbZJh1hROprqILEhi5H39L0JEpN0M+sALjN D/fosG/gU2eIw== Original-Received: from alan by faroe.holly.idiocy.org with local (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1nfhaa-000OQE-BY; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:31:44 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.126.228; envelope-from=alan@idiocy.org; helo=outbound.soverin.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288480 Archived-At: On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:19:49PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > It sounds like MacOS is becoming what we call a "jail", like > iMonsterOS. I believe there are concerns in the non-fanboy Mac community that that's the plan, but I don't really follow Apple news much. -- Alan Third