From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Would there be a drawback of using the same graphical toolkit on every platform? Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 14:09:58 +0300 Message-ID: References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> <875ypaebhr.fsf@zoho.eu> <878ru6crrk.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5213"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.0 (2022-02-12) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 20 12:13:28 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLk9f-0001De-VZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 12:13:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36296 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLk9e-0006pV-R1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:13:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41386) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLk6H-0006oW-OL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:09:57 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:38455) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLk6C-0005c9-1r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:09:57 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.4.74]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000087C3B.000000006212217B.00003222; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:09:47 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <878ru6crrk.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL=0.141, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136044 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2022-02-20 03:22]: > Drew Adams wrote: > > > (Not a reply to any particular msg in this thread.) > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpers_and_splitters > > So there are lumpers and splitters ... > > I'm a lumper! Lumper wrote the article, now you tend to agree. People can't be put in two groups. One can only take one specific narrow context, and judge from a point of view that one side is lumper oder splitter. If we are to judge you to be lumper... you are far from that. You would not be on this mailing list if you would generally be a lumper. Why? You are pedantic in every detail, you correct smallest nitpicks just like Drew. There is general tendency in Emacs society to go rather towards "splitters" group. Lumpers don't participate much in discussions. > Lumpers recognize things when they see them and have no > problem accepting that reality cannot be approached as an > exact science. > > Meanwhile, splitters are neurotic, by-the-book legalists who > rely on human-formulated definitions - imperfect by nature, > tendentious in character ... > > Yeah, that's a good definition, right? It's another lumper made definition. 🙂 I don't see it that way. Intelligence is very related to distinction. The higher ability to distinguish, probably there is more intelligence. Lumpers could or may see that distinction is not necessary in specific subject, it does not mean they cannot distinguish. But it could be. > But wait, didn't I just do the splitter thing? Labeling of people groups generally is not useful. But practically and in specific context it can be very useful. Do you see this letter A and A? Are they same? They look same but they are not same, as they must be saved in quite different locations by different impulses which are not same. They look same to observer as that is what observer learned "to be same". Observer is always to some degree both lumper and splitter. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/