From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: xenodasein@tutanota.de
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:27:55 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd2F2wwVIiDrjA5n@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Mt8-b6q--3-2@tutanota.de>
* xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions. <emacs-devel@gnu.org> [2022-01-11 15:08]:
> Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-01/msg00794.html
> > ...
> > At the end of the day, this seems like a non-problem driven by a
> > belief/ideology that mixing user and auto-generated code is so wrong it
> > has to be eliminated. If there was evidence of significant adverse
> > impact to users due to this practice, change would be warranted.
> > However, as it now stands, I cannot see how such change can be
> > justified.
>
> All arguments against Drew's proposals so far converge at "it is better
> to do nothing." Why not propose something even better? Throwing "where
> is your evidence?" around is easy, but one must consider we are far from
> the domain of scientific method here, or of law. Is existence of people
> on Emacs related forums suggesting setting custom-file to /dev/null as a
> good solution evidence enough? How about split of early-init/creation
> of straight.el? What you call "belief/ideology" is known as intuition,
> and it is the primary force behind any successful software. Or any
> kind of invention, really. If only concern is the cost of change, why
> not produce arguments for how to reduce that cost or to find a way
> forward?
A girl I know here uses frequently Emacs and she is 3 years. She likes
large letters and cannot read. For her is important to enlarge letters
and to type on keyboard. She does not know what letters and numbers
mean. I can tell she is new user of Emacs.
It would be great for this new user to enable C-x-+ to and C-x-- to be
easier accessible (text-scale-adjust INC) and thus I propose to
include the text scale option into any setup wizards to come, in easy
way.
The way how I have see it in the setup-wizard.el is too complicated. I
rather expect something like using + and - to set the default font
size so that young people can easier get along.
--
Jean
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2022-01-03 6:13 Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-03 14:47 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 6:13 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 6:45 ` tomas
2022-01-04 7:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 10:10 ` tomas
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:09 ` tomas
2022-01-04 17:30 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 18:03 ` tomas
2022-01-04 18:27 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 18:41 ` tomas
2022-01-05 9:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 7:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 10:11 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 10:30 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 10:46 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 10:59 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 13:02 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 11:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 12:23 ` LdBeth
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 15:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 15:48 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 15:57 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 15:54 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 16:49 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 17:14 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:32 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:45 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:55 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 18:24 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 17:35 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 17:57 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-05 9:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-05 1:01 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 7:03 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 7:10 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 7:22 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 7:47 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 7:59 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 9:17 ` LdBeth
2022-01-05 9:26 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-05 10:54 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-05 11:24 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 11:45 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 12:09 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-05 13:04 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 19:10 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 19:02 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 19:36 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 9:35 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 9:58 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 10:58 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-05 12:09 ` LdBeth
2022-01-05 12:57 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 13:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 15:58 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 0:37 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 7:21 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 7:23 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 7:33 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 7:39 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-06 9:40 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 9:45 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-06 12:28 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-06 17:20 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 20:11 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-06 22:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 22:33 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07 4:05 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 7:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07 17:18 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-08 0:29 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-10 22:01 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-11 6:23 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 12:01 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 12:10 ` Po Lu
2022-01-11 12:25 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 12:42 ` tomas
[not found] ` <dbc302f1-a769-24d4-294d-e291b015229b@mnet-mail.de>
[not found] ` <Yd2W5BaccjjbJ6+q@tuxteam.de>
2022-01-11 15:23 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
[not found] ` <Yd2kAPRoYd37qCaN@tuxteam.de>
2022-01-11 16:05 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 16:11 ` tomas
2022-01-12 0:46 ` Po Lu
2022-01-11 12:35 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 15:05 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 20:57 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 13:27 ` Jean Louis [this message]
2022-01-07 0:52 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 4:46 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 5:58 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 7:04 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-08 0:54 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 3:13 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 3:26 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 7:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-08 13:32 ` Add list of useful settings to setup wizard was: Re: Default custom file LdBeth
2022-01-08 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-08 14:50 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 14:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-08 15:30 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 15:05 ` John Yates
2022-01-08 8:03 ` [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA tomas
2022-01-08 9:38 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 10:39 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 11:14 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 12:35 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 12:44 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 12:59 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 13:16 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:24 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 13:33 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:44 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 14:32 ` tomas
2022-01-08 14:46 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 17:17 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-08 18:26 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
[not found] ` <MtgbBbx--B-2@tutanota.de>
[not found] ` <MtqtDSN--3-2@tutanota.de>
2022-01-20 14:25 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-10 19:20 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-09 0:48 ` Po Lu
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2022-01-08 14:28 ` [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA tomas
2022-01-08 14:48 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 11:42 ` tomas
2022-01-08 12:28 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-10 19:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-10 22:02 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-12 4:55 ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-12 8:58 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-12 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-12 5:09 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 0:49 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 4:42 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 6:38 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-07 8:43 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-07 9:38 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-07 17:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 17:12 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 0:48 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 6:18 ` tomas
2022-01-07 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 16:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 7:43 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 16:43 ` Drew Adams
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