From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 52298@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#52298: 29.0.50; Frequent redisplay cycles induced by c-type-finder-timer-func timer in CC Mode
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 20:15:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YbEScn/xXG0G4nIQ@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sfv74hpm.fsf@gnu.org>
Hello, Eli.
Yes, I've received your more recent posts in this thread.
On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 09:46:29 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> It used to be the case that starting "emacs -Q" and disabling
> blink-cursor-mode and global-eldoc-mode was enough to get me Emacs
> that doesn't perform redisplay unless required. To see this, do the
> following with any Emacs up to and including Emacs 28:
> emacs -Q
> M-x blink-cursor-mode RET
> M-x global-eldoc-mode RET
> M-x trace-redisplay RET
> (The last command is only available if you configured with
> "--enable-checking=yes,glyphs".) This would produce a few lines of
> output on stderr, and then stop until you do something in Emacs, like
> move the cursor with an arrow key.
I've just tried building with that ./configure option, and trying out
M-x trace-redisplay with emacs -Q on a very recent master version.
The command is not very useful on a Linux console. It outputs messages
on the same display thing that Emacs itself is using, and outputs them
as if they were a Unix text file being naively displayed in Windows:
i.e. like this:
aaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> This is no longer the case in Emacs 29. There, if you visit a C file,
> you will see a flurry of stderr messages about constant redisplay
> cycles being forced. It seems like the culprit is the function
> 'c-type-finder-timer-func', which is run from a timer at 10 Hz (!),
> and which for some reason forces Emacs to perform a redisplay cycle
> with that frequency. ....
I see the flurry of messages. But with trace-redisplay disabled, I see
no evidence of excessive redisplay (see below). Could it be that there
is some interaction between trace-redisplay and CC Mode which is causing
all these redisplayings?
> .... The trace itself, viz.:
> redisplay_internal 0
> 071a03c8 (xdisp.c): try_window_id 2
> redisplay_preserve_echo_area (8)
> means that the processing induced by that timer function is far from
> being trivial, which means something that this function does causes
> Emacs to think some real change might have happened in the buffer.
I'm not familiar with such traces, and trace-redisplay is not documented
in its doc string. Could you please explain briefly what the "071a03c8
(xdisp.c):" means, and what says that the processing is non-trivial.
Thanks!
> Not even "emacs -Q -D" is enough to get rid of this
> 'c-type-finder-timer-func' timer in CC Mode buffers.
> Is it possible to prevent this frequent timer from firing when no
> changes have been done to the buffer? And in any case, please try to
> include some logic in that function to avoid whatever it does now to
> force such frequent non-trivial redisplay cycles. If nothing else,
> laptop users will hate us if we release Emacs with this behavior.
When I apply the following patch to cc-fonts.el:
diff --git a/lisp/progmodes/cc-fonts.el b/lisp/progmodes/cc-fonts.el
index 967464ac14..2ae92f99bf 100644
--- a/lisp/progmodes/cc-fonts.el
+++ b/lisp/progmodes/cc-fonts.el
@@ -2429,6 +2429,11 @@ c-re-redisplay-timer
(defun c-force-redisplay (start end)
;; Force redisplay immediately. This assumes `font-lock-support-mode' is
;; 'jit-lock-mode. Set the variable `c-re-redisplay-timer' to nil.
+;;;; TEMPORARY STOUGH, 2021-12-08
+ (message "c-force-redisplay - Buffer: %s - %s:%s - \"%s\""
+ (buffer-name (current-buffer)) start end
+ (buffer-substring-no-properties start end))
+;;;; END OF TEMPORARY STOUGH.
(save-excursion (c-font-lock-fontify-region start end))
(jit-lock-force-redisplay (copy-marker start) (copy-marker end))
(setq c-re-redisplay-timer nil))
, and load xdisp.c freshly, I see only three lines of output in
*Messages*:
c-force-redisplay - Buffer: xdisp.c - 223:225 - "it"
c-force-redisplay - Buffer: xdisp.c - 49:55 - "buffer"
c-force-redisplay - Buffer: xdisp.c - 28:34 - "window"
That applies after waiting over a minute. After this time, the `top'
utility shows Emacs consuming around 1% of a CPU core's time.
All this suggests that in normal use, CC Mode isn't triggering excessive
redisplay operations.
What am I not seeing?
> In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 297, i686-pc-mingw32)
> of 2021-12-04 built on HOME-C4E4A596F7
I've checked the git log, and there haven't been any changes to CC Mode
since this version.
> Repository revision: f247fa5d5ce7cb34f23c979c17b14c5713eb5490
> Repository branch: master
> Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
> System Description: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (v5.1.0.2600)
> Configured using:
> 'configure -C --prefix=/d/usr --with-wide-int
> --enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -gdwarf-4 -g3''
[ .... ]
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-08 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-05 7:46 bug#52298: 29.0.50; Frequent redisplay cycles induced by c-type-finder-timer-func timer in CC Mode Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-06 20:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-07 12:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07 19:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-07 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 20:15 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2021-12-09 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09 20:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-09 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-10 18:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-10 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-10 22:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-11 7:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-11 14:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-11 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-11 17:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-11 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-12 8:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-12 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-12 19:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-12 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-13 14:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-12 23:31 ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-12-13 14:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-19 14:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
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