From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57847: Emacs Reference Lisp Manual on defcustom Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2022 04:31:41 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: uzibalqa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12744"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: 57847@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 16 06:32:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ31S-00037S-4L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:32:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58622 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ31Q-00057d-JZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ31H-00056D-9O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ31G-0006CJ-Qg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ31G-00070c-Cn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:32:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: uzibalqa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2022 04:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 57847 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-Debbugs-Original-To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.166330271926929 (code B ref -1); Fri, 16 Sep 2022 04:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2022 04:31:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41135 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ31B-00070G-VR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:31:58 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:54786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ317-000706-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32906) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ316-00055v-VR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:31:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]:54603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oZ314-000687-3x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:31:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1663302706; x=1663561906; bh=HQMCb9Ucn3GP8T1rFfzNWplePB0jLBrM8O3LrLtkU08=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=nIY0g6F5H3PjGHM+y+xTmr3aqzG934BFz9ECLw40dKjv/OJWGZpRWweP7lxrQSyt9 QbFgo3Grr0gdY5G+kI/oxz0VYl0VwupmAyaB6Wplgw2g7NnH0Px0Id/nGcjgdkXr/g DBPc+p0N8EJJ1yUAv9yam04NeVuBFRK7y9CX8zlI7YZArgk9PfFxc0Rmf6qHraFwsp FFi5lF5p2cs+4cVLWA4SFJurlMeBCf51MiwnJjl+qNut2H5spWi2iHZbaFcypReZqL ANVQKgY7b7n22rYDzjht8Dz/aCMtSMqXH1Hf+n4YRdc7FPuveSGdtCH66mqUcY05rE J5DXVGhJcRopQ== Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.25; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-4325.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:242681 Archived-At: I am reading the Elisp manual 16.2 Specifying Variables using defcustom The custom-set-variables function works somewhat differently than a setq. W= hile I have never learned the differences, I modify the custom-set-variable= s expressions in my .emacs file by hand: I make the changes in what appears= to me to be a reasonable manner and have not had any problems. Others pref= er to use the Customization command and let Emacs do the work for them.=20 I myself use customize for hardly anything. Mostly, I write expressions mys= elf. Why are we talking like this !!! "I have never learned the differences" an= d "I myself use customize for hardly anything."