From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Running emacs without any customisation Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 04:45:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: <82r0zbkegq.fsf@gmail.com> <82mt9zkbmz.fsf@gmail.com> <8735brb5nt.fsf@yahoo.com> <87tu479jnt.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10720"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , pquessev@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 06:46:56 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ojCb2-0002Yq-FU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 06:46:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40380 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojCb0-0003UN-PH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 00:46:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37214) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojCZl-0003Ts-7S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 00:45:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:58855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojCZi-0006Uw-71 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 00:45:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1665722729; x=1665981929; bh=VSr709LmsrvnZ2/ePPIqV+lFFxj2l78e9jTEwDn1ZDo=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=Y0ATro/gaCYJyNj7GBqZqWoLRyCb2ydlloSYXowvc4iW4mBgDawiCbfbsvA3uPeO1 qc5L5/noFvL+zkayHo787tiiam1CfmCH3eiznjp0DuLyEDRBzFg8WatGdLnZBXGPGd 4Ah7NLbia8ImUmxj9+WayPRgVvAsAR0nCzIDQU9xHa1dpd/FF3+UPeNnRUljzFw0/Z 9n6uonKp9MyVzFo2/+eBHR+ZjoJHVp56BFkCfaMAZutkqy1Ele+SStOBin2mMR4UYP rI9fRWS6mXGvRrm3pdqyKzXYSryBVRYc4vhkk1bjX49ZGa7R1y0nPLp3xI/uCDAMpL 1dwgai4opb4JA== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.18; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-4318.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139921 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, October 14th, 2022 at 3:49 AM, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:19 PM > > From: "Po Lu" luangruo@yahoo.com > > To: "Christopher Dimech" dimech@gmx.com > > Cc: pquessev@gmail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: [External] : Running emacs without any customisation > >=20 > > Christopher Dimech dimech@gmx.com writes: > >=20 > > > Aren't X resource settings overriding the equivalent settings in Emac= s > > > init files for parameters of the initial frame? > >=20 > > No. What the OP is complaining about is X resources providing defaults > > when nothing is set in the user init file. >=20 >=20 > It could be that the OP set up a black system theme, and emacs is taking > the information from there. That's why he is seeing a dark emacs instance > when using the command "emacs". >=20 > Have no idea about what is the minimum settings for init file, that stops > settings form X resources taking effect. There are so many ways informati= on > can be obtained that it could be difficult to track. Hence the confusion. =20 I generally have my init file without inhibiting x-resources. Because my i= nit file is broken, I got to rely on some default setup. Would there be side-e= ffects if I always inhibit x-resources when using my init file? The problem I have with using x-resources is that the text in the mode line is extremely difficult to read. Cannot see a thing.