From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: SLIME and SBCL (Common Lisp) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 23:31:49 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87pmw7g7uo.fsf@zoho.eu> <87y2ak6iqr.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13649"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 06 22:36:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m0ro6-0003Ot-9i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 22:36:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42360 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m0ro5-0001rO-AE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 16:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m0rnm-0001rD-8H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 16:36:18 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:40109) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m0rnk-0001iY-Aj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 16:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.34.164]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000057EBC.0000000060E4BEBD.00002B4F; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 13:36:13 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y2ak6iqr.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131599 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-07-06 09:49]: > > SBCL does not have a readline. > > A readline, you mean like in C? Readline is GNU library where it remembers history and offers line editing capabilities. CLISP has readline built-in, that helps 10 times more to use the REPL easier (without Emacs). SBCL does not have it, it asks for so much typing without Emacs. CLISP not, as it has readline. Maybe you never tried using CLISP from console only. I have been developing Lisp programs in REPL only, without editor. And I was very reluctant to use Emacs. Today I still go to REPL often and use its features, but I use Emacs mostly. How I was doing it? I would define functions. If function was good, I would save it. There was and is, a function to save other functions. Then I could invoke editor from within REPL. I can invoke any type of editor, save file, load file. That is process in REPL. It is quite a nice way of developing. People who are not used to it will of course suggest Emacs and other way around. > > Yesterday I was supposed to write a general Double Opt-In > > program in Common Lisp but I wrote it in Emacs Lisp. I guess > > I will have to rewrite it in Common Lisp, then I will do the > > same in Chicken, Dr. Racket, Scheme and Perl, then maybe > > other languages to add. > > A lot of schemes you have, why write the same program in > several languages? Some VPS-es are different from others, distributions are different. It is not always easy to have some language on every remote server. On the other hand it helps great to do it in few dialects as it it research on what will work best. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/