From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Appending lists Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 00:40:26 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87o8c8l32h.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgvs2bup.fsf@zoho.eu> <87y2bby1kr.fsf@zoho.eu> <20210615091834.GB24886@tuxteam.de> <87im2ewr3k.fsf@zoho.eu> <20210616072819.GB17919@tuxteam.de> <87im2dvjgl.fsf@zoho.eu> <20210616184915.GA18839@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29219"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 16 23:51:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltdRa-0007N4-Ol for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 23:51:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33474 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltdRZ-0000Km-FH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltdKY-0002ju-6K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:47205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltdKW-0006sK-Cw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:44:13 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.23]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000076063.0000000060CA70A9.00006EC9; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 14:44:09 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: tomas@tuxteam.de, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210616184915.GA18839@tuxteam.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130928 Archived-At: * tomas@tuxteam.de [2021-06-16 21:55]: > Maybe. Drawing is still always nice and enlightening [1] (my > recommendation was somewhat directed at Jean Louis, but still :) It is exactly what I said, you talk about underlying structures. It doesn't keep the variable's value constant as you said. To put a point across it would be better to announce or make a title that you don't talk how "variable never changes", but you talk about the structures in memory and somewhat interesting though practically within the spoken context useless information. What matters for programmer is that variable A instead of holding value 1 now has value 2, that is a change, and how that change was internally accomplished does not change the fact that A is now not 1 but is 2. (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/