* Highlight saved, rendered HTML document @ 2021-06-09 15:43 Julius Hamilton 2021-06-09 19:48 ` Jean Louis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Julius Hamilton @ 2021-06-09 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Hello, I would like to be able to highlight webpages offline, for better reading comprehension of them. I would like to save the webpage onto my computer - a feature offered by Chrome, for example - then annotate it; just like what highlighting browser extensions like Liner permit you to do for URLs loaded over the internet. I recently discovered that for some reason, these tools do not work for downloaded pages being viewed in a browser. Maybe it's because they try to save the highlights in relation to each URL, and the downloaded pages don't have URLs. I was wondering if anybody could recommend a way to highlight rendered HTML pages in Emacs. I know Emacs provides annotation tools for PDFs in pdf-tools mode, and highlighting plaintext in a certain highlighting mode. It seems likely that it should be possible for HTML pages too. Just to be clear, I don't mean syntax highlighting HTML code, but rather moving a cursor through a web document to highlight information of interest. Would there be a good Emacs tool for this? Thanks very much, Julius ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: Highlight saved, rendered HTML document 2021-06-09 15:43 Highlight saved, rendered HTML document Julius Hamilton @ 2021-06-09 19:48 ` Jean Louis 2021-06-10 15:29 ` Julius Hamilton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Jean Louis @ 2021-06-09 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Julius Hamilton; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs * Julius Hamilton <julkhami@gmail.com> [2021-06-09 21:06]: > Hello, > > I would like to be able to highlight webpages offline, for better reading > comprehension of them. Hypothes.is Annotate the web, with anyone, anywhere. https://web.hypothes.is/ That may be one of best tools for annotation. It could be installed on your computer. More resources: Open Annotation · GitHub https://github.com/openannotation Home - Annotator - Annotating the Web http://annotatorjs.org/ Different solution is to save the HTML page as PDF and use Emacs to annotate PDF (you said it works) or Evince PDF viewer to annotate it. There is different solution to convert HTML to text and then to annotate it by using: ;; Author: Bastian Bechtold ;; Maintainer: Bastian Bechtold ;; URL: https://github.com/bastibe/annotate.el Converting HTML to text is not hard, there are many tools to do that, including with Emacs. $ elinks --dump https://www.example.com > example.txt or $ pandoc -f html -t plain https://www.example.com > I recently discovered that for some reason, these tools do not work > for downloaded pages being viewed in a browser. Maybe it's because > they try to save the highlights in relation to each URL, and the > downloaded pages don't have URLs. Maybe this system could help? Home | CollectiveAccess https://collectiveaccess.org/ You may install CollectiveAccess on your computer and annotate anything from WWWW. Demo: https://demo.collectiveaccess.org/index.php/system/auth/login?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdemo.collectiveaccess.org%2Findex.php%2FDashboard%2FIndex > I was wondering if anybody could recommend a way to highlight rendered HTML > pages in Emacs. I know Emacs provides annotation tools for PDFs in > pdf-tools mode, and highlighting plaintext in a certain highlighting mode. > It seems likely that it should be possible for HTML pages too. > > Just to be clear, I don't mean syntax highlighting HTML code, but rather > moving a cursor through a web document to highlight information of > interest. I could use annotate.el to annotate HTML that I have opened with eww-open-file and annotated with annotate-mode, but I could not save annotations. Now I am thinking it could be or should be possible to adapt it. Cc: to Ihor as he may know the solution. How annotate.el works you can see in the attached image, but I think that annotation is too short or somehow limited if it is straight in the text. Good and simple way to annotate documents would be either GNU Hyperbole or `eev' package, then I would take the approach of making buttons which I would highlight and be able to quickly jump to the annotation. Here is the example hyperlink to text annotation: "/home/admin/tmp/annotations.txt" Or hyperlink to specific line number: "/home/admin/tmp/annotations.txt:2" Or `eev' hyperlinks: (find-fline "~/tmp/annotations.txt") Or like this below that could annotate the paragraph and jump to annotations file searching for "lorem ipsum", or it could go to specific position, it implies that files are writeable. (find-fline "~/tmp/annotations.txt" "lorem ipsum") Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Donec a diam lectus. Sed sit amet ipsum mauris. Maecenas congue ligula ac quam viverra nec consectetur ante hendrerit. Donec et mollis dolor. I would take the programmatic approach to annotations on the higher level which would or could work with files but also buffers not related to files such as those values edited from a database. The approach would be similar to `eev' package and function `find-fline', so I would make it for read only files based on the line or query, for writeable files based on the query only (prone to fail if things are changed). A query or a line could even be highlighted later if mode is turned on, or it could become a button on the fly (Emacs package button.el) -- and data would be stored outside, in the database object that refers to the file. That approach makes it little more visual. Right now I am annotating any file, any object by using database meta-level attributes, so if there is a file there is description, internal description, text, report, author, tags, all such information pieces are separate from the file, thus not so specific to parts of the text as I simply not need it that defined. I have 14000 objects to PDFs by page number, that is not an annotation but is similar, as I can jump from description straight to PDF (or files of any kinds). This message I have already "annotated" and can further work on it, it is offline though it is online, jumping from annotation to offline or online version works too. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ ⟦ (hyperscope 38467) ⟧ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: Highlight saved, rendered HTML document 2021-06-09 19:48 ` Jean Louis @ 2021-06-10 15:29 ` Julius Hamilton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Julius Hamilton @ 2021-06-10 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Julius Hamilton, help-gnu-emacs Thanks very much. I'll read this over and let you know what I think. Best regards, Julius On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 21:51 Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote: > * Julius Hamilton <julkhami@gmail.com> [2021-06-09 21:06]: > > Hello, > > > > I would like to be able to highlight webpages offline, for better reading > > comprehension of them. > > Hypothes.is Annotate the web, with anyone, anywhere. > https://web.hypothes.is/ > > That may be one of best tools for annotation. It could be installed on > your computer. > > More resources: > > Open Annotation · GitHub > https://github.com/openannotation > > Home - Annotator - Annotating the Web > http://annotatorjs.org/ > > Different solution is to save the HTML page as PDF and use Emacs to > annotate PDF (you said it works) or Evince PDF viewer to annotate it. > > There is different solution to convert HTML to text and then to > annotate it by using: > > ;; Author: Bastian Bechtold > ;; Maintainer: Bastian Bechtold > ;; URL: https://github.com/bastibe/annotate.el > > Converting HTML to text is not hard, there are many tools to do that, > including with Emacs. > > $ elinks --dump https://www.example.com > example.txt > > or > > $ pandoc -f html -t plain https://www.example.com > > > I recently discovered that for some reason, these tools do not work > > for downloaded pages being viewed in a browser. Maybe it's because > > they try to save the highlights in relation to each URL, and the > > downloaded pages don't have URLs. > > Maybe this system could help? > > Home | CollectiveAccess > https://collectiveaccess.org/ > > You may install CollectiveAccess on your computer and annotate > anything from WWWW. Demo: > > https://demo.collectiveaccess.org/index.php/system/auth/login?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdemo.collectiveaccess.org%2Findex.php%2FDashboard%2FIndex > > > I was wondering if anybody could recommend a way to highlight rendered > HTML > > pages in Emacs. I know Emacs provides annotation tools for PDFs in > > pdf-tools mode, and highlighting plaintext in a certain highlighting > mode. > > It seems likely that it should be possible for HTML pages too. > > > > Just to be clear, I don't mean syntax highlighting HTML code, but rather > > moving a cursor through a web document to highlight information of > > interest. > > I could use annotate.el to annotate HTML that I have opened with > eww-open-file and annotated with annotate-mode, but I could not save > annotations. Now I am thinking it could be or should be possible to > adapt it. > > Cc: to Ihor as he may know the solution. > > How annotate.el works you can see in the attached image, but I think > that annotation is too short or somehow limited if it is straight in > the text. > > Good and simple way to annotate documents would be either GNU > Hyperbole or `eev' package, then I would take the approach of making > buttons which I would highlight and be able to quickly jump to the > annotation. Here is the example hyperlink to text annotation: > "/home/admin/tmp/annotations.txt" > > Or hyperlink to specific line number: > "/home/admin/tmp/annotations.txt:2" > > Or `eev' hyperlinks: > > (find-fline "~/tmp/annotations.txt") > > Or like this below that could annotate the paragraph and jump to > annotations file searching for "lorem ipsum", or it could go to > specific position, it implies that files are writeable. > > (find-fline "~/tmp/annotations.txt" "lorem ipsum") > > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Donec a diam > lectus. Sed sit amet ipsum mauris. Maecenas congue ligula ac quam > viverra nec consectetur ante hendrerit. Donec et mollis > dolor. > > I would take the programmatic approach to annotations on the higher > level which would or could work with files but also buffers not > related to files such as those values edited from a database. The > approach would be similar to `eev' package and function `find-fline', > so I would make it for read only files based on the line or query, for > writeable files based on the query only (prone to fail if things are > changed). A query or a line could even be highlighted later if mode is > turned on, or it could become a button on the fly (Emacs package > button.el) -- and data would be stored outside, in the database object > that refers to the file. That approach makes it little more visual. > > Right now I am annotating any file, any object by using database > meta-level attributes, so if there is a file there is description, > internal description, text, report, author, tags, all such information > pieces are separate from the file, thus not so specific to parts of > the text as I simply not need it that defined. I have 14000 objects to > PDFs by page number, that is not an annotation but is similar, as I > can jump from description straight to PDF (or files of any > kinds). This message I have already "annotated" and can further work > on it, it is offline though it is online, jumping from annotation to > offline or online version works too. > > -- > Jean > > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns > > In support of Richard M. Stallman > https://stallmansupport.org/ > > ⟦ (hyperscope 38467) ⟧ > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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