From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: icomplete-vertical-mode not taking effect Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 08:44:19 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37982"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 20 17:44:49 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1luzcv-0009hd-2U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 17:44:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56686 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luzct-0005zx-NG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:44:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com>) id 1luzcZ-0005zp-7M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:44:27 -0400 Original-Received: from www458.your-server.de ([136.243.165.62]:41776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com>) id 1luzcX-0001vI-4D for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:44:26 -0400 Original-Received: from sslproxy06.your-server.de ([78.46.172.3]) by www458.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com>) id 1luzcU-0001Uj-8A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 17:44:22 +0200 Original-Received: from [47.44.249.130] (helo=localhost) by sslproxy06.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com>) id 1luzcT-0009MM-IY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 17:44:21 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-Sender: 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.103.2/26207/Sun Jun 20 13:09:38 2021) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.243.165.62; envelope-from=2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com; helo=www458.your-server.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131100 Archived-At: On 2021-06-20 at 17:27:35 +0200, arvid-harnack@lavache.com wrote: > I am also disappointed when I see how ivy works.  But helm and ivy are > both too big.  Furthermore, they are external packages. icomplete can > more easily implement a vertical mode with not much complication than > using ivy.  It is very easy to criticise me about my attitude than > recognising a bad job.  I know it is in development stage, but it is a > crucial stage for change before the implementation hardens in place.  > Otherwise it will be much harder for suggestions to be applied. As per https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html: “Free software” means that ... the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. Evidently, the existing completion frameworks fail to meet your standards and expectations. I think it's safe to infer that you've run various frameworks. I don't know whether you've copied or distributed them. Your commentary indicates a certain level of study, at least from a user's perspective. IMO, the next steps are clear.