From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 02:36:15 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87wnrggh5x.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tumjgan7.fsf@zoho.eu> <878s3vg94z.fsf@zoho.eu> <87r1hnet1v.fsf@zoho.eu> <877djfes7o.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25486"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 31 01:40:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnV2s-0006V5-1G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 01:40:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47968 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnV2r-0007Dl-4O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 19:40:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53136) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnV05-0006c4-9k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 19:37:45 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:42797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnV03-0006rZ-Jn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 19:37:45 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.86.7.33]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000AE2D6.0000000060B421C5.00007B6A; Sun, 30 May 2021 16:37:41 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <877djfes7o.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130378 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-05-31 02:10]: > Jean Louis wrote: > > >> This shows the man page for ls(1): > >> > >> (man "ls") > > > > User friendliness lacking. > > > > C-x C-e on the end of sexp is not same as M-e anywhere on > > the line. > > What about M-x man RET ls RET and the "line" can be > rationalized away? You still have to understand what means "embedded Lisp", that does not involve M-x. Imagine a text of 10 pages the interactive manual. That is what eev can do, including GNU Hyperbole, those are similar systems. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/