From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 01:56:39 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87k0ngggkq.fsf@zoho.eu> <87h7ijg9ls.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v96zet60.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4332"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 31 00:59:39 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUPD-00010H-Qe for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 00:59:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39520 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUPC-0007HX-Tg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUNM-00062k-4q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:57:44 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:53801) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnUNK-0005qL-Eq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:57:43 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.86.7.33]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000AE2D8.0000000060B41865.0000783D; Sun, 30 May 2021 15:57:40 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87v96zet60.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130370 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-05-31 01:51]: > > I can tell that it is pain in the associates to handle > > clocking in of 30 people at once. Some of them will > > complain... talk... I have tried doing that with Org mode, > > successsfull but slow. It is better with SQL and > > rapid integration. > > People use Emacs in the corporate world like this? Text editors are widely used. What a question... have you not seen black console screens in companies in Sweden, even DOS is used in many modern places in the world because some software simply works well. > They don't have special software, business software being > produced and marketed by some business? It is difficult with other people's software. I have tried it, it is not reliable. Example is the SugarCRM before so many years, failures on upgrades would block the business. Today they dropped the free software version, imagine what disaster would that be if I would be still using it. GeDaFe worked so well and still works: GeDaFe - PostgreSQL Generic Database Interface http://gedafe.github.io/doc/gedafe-sql.en.html and now Emacs extends it and provides more interactivity and speed. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/