From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 01:38:45 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87k0ngggkq.fsf@zoho.eu> <87h7ijg9ls.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9708"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 31 00:43:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnU9z-0002Hm-CI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 00:43:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55144 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnU9y-0006AN-Dx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43764) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnU8o-00068H-BA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:42:42 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:47993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnU8m-0005V8-HV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:42:42 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.86.7.33]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000AE2D6.0000000060B414DE.000076B5; Sun, 30 May 2021 15:42:37 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87h7ijg9ls.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130360 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor : > And now we are running a company with 30 people! > > That software seems to be very versatile if nothing else :) I can tell that it is pain in the associates to handle clocking in of 30 people at once. Some of them will complain... talk... I have tried doing that with Org mode, successsfull but slow. It is better with SQL and rapid integration. Something like: mmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmm mmmmmm M-x clock-them-in over the list of people is so much faster than going on by one over each of their "headings" and doing some complex C-c C-x C-i magic clock-ings for each of them. 30 people x 3 more keys plus at least several more keys just to find person in the heading x 30 days in a month x months... ah no. Org ≨ Organization And then... CLOCK-IN let us say 2021-05-31 at 8:30 but why? It was supposed to be 08:00 precise. So CLOCK-IN needs its description field, to describe why, or next manager will fire the person when manager finds that person was always coming late. Maybe goats were stolen and guy had to search for them, but maybe it was was just a day after drinking evening. Reason why brings meanings. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/