From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 01:05:37 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87wnrggh5x.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tumjgan7.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8624"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 31 00:08:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnTbJ-0001zw-8W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 00:08:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46152 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnTbI-0006id-AX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39824) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnTax-0006iS-AE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:07:43 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:43291) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lnTav-0000Eb-Co for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 May 2021 18:07:43 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.86.7.33]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000AE2D6.0000000060B40CAB.000073A4; Sun, 30 May 2021 15:07:38 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87tumjgan7.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130354 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-05-31 00:45]: > Jean Louis wrote: > > >> Sounds interesting but what is it and what does it do? > > > > It is hyperdocument system for Emacs. You can create > > hyperlinks in form of Emacs Lisp and jump somewhere and come > > back, use it for workflows of life and business, for > > education and similar. > > > > WWW Hyperlinks for example, one cannot use to read any kind > > of documents or jump just anywhere but Emacs Lisp may be > > used to create such hyperlinks. > > But that we already do with Emacs all the time... Principle is important. eev can be embedded in text, the following link may be evaluated with M-e and point being anywhere before the sexp: This is line before the sexp (find-man "man") But I think it should also work after the sexp. And the sexp could be underlined visually. In one way is similar to GNU Hyperbole buttons. It is useful for instructions. 1. Do something (ok I will do) 2. Do more (ok-here is more) And I have it similar in combination either with eev or GNU Hyperbole: 1. SLIME: The Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs (hyperscope 37269) 2. Handle the Magic Keywords File List (hyperscope 35956) It jumps quickly to the note or item that I need. Numbers are used. I could as well use: id:35956 It then jumps to the list here: 37272 Introducing Linux Air Combat WWW 37271 SLY User Manual, version 1.0.42 WWW 37270 Emacs Lisp Introduction WWW ⧓37269 SLIME: The Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs WWW 37268 Functions | Common Lisp WWW 37267 Read–eval–print loop - Wikipedia WWW 37266 PostgreSQL: The world's most advanced open source database WWW But it could as well open it, instead jump to the heading. It could jump to edit the note, or to read the PDF, or watch movie. Only that attributes are defined in the object itself, not in the Lisp function. The list of items can be generated, in fact I generate Org file with hyperlinks out of all nodes. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/