From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Use Emacs as the IDE for Wolfram Mathematica. Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 15:13:06 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87a6om1022.fsf@zoho.eu> <871r9x25l8.fsf@zoho.eu> <87sg2dzrpe.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2869"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 23 14:18:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lkn48-0000WV-PA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 14:18:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58918 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lkn47-0005yE-S8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 08:18:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lkn3R-0005xk-4d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 08:18:01 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:60599) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lkn3O-0007kW-5X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 08:18:00 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.239.35.51]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000ADF16.0000000060AA47F2.00005226; Sun, 23 May 2021 05:17:54 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87sg2dzrpe.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130127 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-05-23 13:11]: > > Thusly, although someone might include such functionality > > for Emacs, it should not be taken up as part of the official > > emacs development chain. > > What's included or not is up to the maintainers who hopefully > have earned that position thru hard work and sound intuition > with respect to software and politics, but let there be said > that people do "proprietary" software and technology with > Emacs every single day of the week - including Thursdays, so > not even the pea soup seems to help... Maintainers in GNU project never include proprietary software in Emacs neither in GNU ELPA, nor non-GNU ELPA on GNU servers. They are doing great work. There is no referencing to proprietary software, no mentioning of proprietary software. People may use any free software to upgrade their proprietary software, and they can create internal proprietary software, but does it matter when it is internal? As soon as they convey the software to some party or publish it, it has to be the GPL3+ compatible. How much people use it internally is up to them. All software never published could be considered proprietary, but if it was never published... it does not even exist for public. If it was not issued with a compatible free software license, then it could be considered that it was issued, that it is GPL3+ and it could be taken as free software as license was not given to create proprietary Emacs modifications. Emacs package modifies Emacs as editor. Thus any Emacs program distributed in public has to be free software compatible with GPL3+ license. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/