From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What are invisible frames for? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 14:13:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18192"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 22 16:14:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lZa6Y-0004Y5-Rc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 16:14:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42098 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZa6X-0006A4-Rg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 10:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZa52-00050Q-6W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 10:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:16360 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZa4z-000803-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 10:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 50681 invoked by uid 3782); 22 Apr 2021 14:13:15 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p4fe15bfe.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.91.254]) (using STARTTLS) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 16:13:14 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 16625 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Apr 2021 14:13:14 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Submission-Agent: TMDA/1.3.x (Ph3nix) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=193.149.48.1; envelope-from=acm@muc.de; helo=mail.muc.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268279 Archived-At: Hello, Martin. On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 14:15:03 +0200, martin rudalics wrote: > > So, to determine how these MBs should be handled, it would be very > > useful to understand what invisible frames are used for. > I'm using a minibuffer child frame which is invisible most of the time. > It becomes visible and reparented to the selected frame whenever I want > to talk to it. Also, I have `tooltip-reuse-hidden-frame' non-nil which > means that my tooltip frame is invisible whenever it's not used. OK. Presumably you set this up by setting the 'visibility frame parameter. I don't think setting that frame parameter causes Fmake_frame_invisible to get called. At least, I can't find the call anywhere. I don't think I was clear enough in my OP, but it's calls to Fmake_frame_invisible which are bothering me. That function moves any minibuffer on the frame to some other frame. I don't think it should. That's what I'm trying to sort out. [ .... ] > martin -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).