From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: require (was: Re: Hooks in minor modes) Date: Sat, 1 May 2021 12:23:20 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87wnsktmqp.fsf@zoho.eu> <87sg38tmag.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <87tunoictd.fsf@zoho.eu> <87mttfh224.fsf@zoho.eu> <87eeerfge1.fsf@zoho.eu> <877dkjdlxm.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10238"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 01 11:24:56 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lclrs-0002aM-I5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 11:24:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41310 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lclrr-0005Ls-M3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 05:24:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47296) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lclqm-0005Li-Me for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 05:23:48 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:54593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lclqk-0001Aw-TT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 05:23:48 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:154.231.162.22]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000046239.00000000608D1E20.0000358C; Sat, 01 May 2021 02:23:43 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <877dkjdlxm.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:129265 Archived-At: * Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-05-01 09:11]> script = Elisp source file? If so that's the same > situation here. > > > loading or requiring should take place regardless of current > > directory > > Ironically that is what is achieved here. Put A and B in the > the directory and from then on that directory can be anywhere, > A can still require B with "." Sorry, I wish I could understand. If I put script A and script B in the directory ~/tmp and push "." into load-path, and then during the day move to directory ~/lib I will not be able to invoke in ~/lib any script neither in M-: eval that will make the function (load "A") nor (load "B") work. This is because I have changed current directory. If I have some bunch of development scripts in ~/Programming/emacs-lisp, then I will put that directory and new scripts there, so I will be able to load them any time from there, regardless of the current directory. > And BTW how do _you_ think it should be done? I should put > stuff a particular place, then hard-code that? Then add an > installer that does it so it is exactly like that? And if the > user doesn't like it - well, tough for HIM, huh, because there > is nothing he can do about it, like put it somewhere else? > Because, the hard-coded load paths would then be broken and > the whole software, also. I do not use so much "load", rather require. How it should be done? I think you know it. Make a package, install it. In packages I use `require' and not `load', I think every package directory is added to load-path automatically. So I do not need to think about load-path at all -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ https://rms-support-letter.github.io/