From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why Gnus is creating .nnmaildir directory in my maildir? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 08:07:46 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87im4qb3yt.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6q1qxl3.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2130"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Utkarsh Singh Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 14 07:08:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lWXlh-0000R6-F6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 07:08:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56352 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lWXlg-0007DX-Hz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 01:08:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lWXlM-0007DD-Hw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 01:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:41335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lWXlK-0008BS-JM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 01:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.34.191]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000280CB.00000000607678C8.00002D1D; Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:08:23 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Utkarsh Singh , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87a6q1qxl3.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128996 Archived-At: * Utkarsh Singh [2021-04-14 07:50]: > If you don't like Gnus and already use Emacs as an editor I would like > to recommend Notmuch Emacs interface(1). You can also checkout my > configs for notmuch(2). By contrary I would like Gnus handling maildirs and I would like using it, but it does not. I have `mu' tools: https://www.djcbsoftware.nl/code/mu/ and `mu4e' as `mu' for Emacs is not working well if I choose the first option to list Maildirs, it never ends trying to list 48000 Maildirs. Because it uses database, and not file system directly. My access method to emails is based on the concept of "people" and "conversations" not search terms, though sometimes, rarely, I will used indexed database. For example, if I think of Utkarsh, I press a key, write Uktarsh and I get 4 people, one of them is Singh, some are Dwivedi, Srivastava, etc. Even if names would be same, people are sorted into groups, I can see on in "Emacs Users" group. I press key on that one, and all emails are opened instantly by using mutt. They can be opened inside emacs as well by using mutt inside of Terminal, they can be also opened by using Nic Ferrier's Maildir package. It is a directory, it should be possible to list it blazing fast without problems. Gnus sadly does not do that. I am explaining this as a concept for people to understand and maybe to implement their own concepts. Then I can see all previous conversation or interactions between me and you in March and April. Thus any searching by To: or From: fields is redundant, as all what is needed is to open Maildir/specific-person@example.com/ to read those emails related to To: and From: fields as all will be stored there inside after replying and reading them first time. As first time reply and reading is when such emails are in main ~/Maildir/ folder. Then they get moved into their corresponding folder. Maybe this system of Maildir management concept by sorting messages into Maildirs corresponding to the one email address may help you in a long run. I use it for quite long time, maybe almost 2 decades. > [1]: https://notmuchmail.org/notmuch-emacs/ > [2]: https://github.com/utkarsh181/dotfiles/tree/master/notmuch Thank you I will try again. First time I have tried notmuch it did not work for me. It could not index, and it was back then something related to 32/64 bits. Now I will try again as I wish to see which software works better. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ https://rms-support-letter.github.io/