Shutting down Org ELPA: No new release of Org on Org ELPA after Org 9.5

Shutting down Org ELPA: No new release of Org on Org ELPA after Org 9.5

[Bastien]

Hi all,

over the years, Org ELPA at https://orgmode.org/elpa/ has been useful
to make it possible to install Org and Org+Contrib as ELPA packages,
but maintaining a separate ELPA space just for Org is not necessary.

Org 9.5 will be the last release to be distributed on Org ELPA.  After
9.5, we won't use Org ELPA for new releases.  Past releases will still
be available, though maybe not indefinitely.

The Org package will continue to be available through GNU ELPA (from
https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/) and a new Org-Contrib package will be
available from https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/.

Only stable releases will be distributed through both GNU and NonGNU
ELPA repositories.  For those who want to test the unstable version of
Org, please install Org from Git:

~$ git clone https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode.git

See https://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation

If you used Org ELPA and are affected by this change, please tell us
if this change affects you.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Shutting down Org ELPA: No new release of Org on Org ELPA after Org 9.5

[Tim Cross]

Thanks Bastien.

To clarify, does this mean org 9.6 will be the first version only
released via GNU elpa (i.e. bug fixes for 9.5 will still be released via
Org elpa e.g. 9.5.1)?

Tim

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> over the years, Org ELPA at https://orgmode.org/elpa/ has been useful
> to make it possible to install Org and Org+Contrib as ELPA packages,
> but maintaining a separate ELPA space just for Org is not necessary.
>
> Org 9.5 will be the last release to be distributed on Org ELPA.  After
> 9.5, we won't use Org ELPA for new releases.  Past releases will still
> be available, though maybe not indefinitely.
>
> The Org package will continue to be available through GNU ELPA (from
> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/) and a new Org-Contrib package will be
> available from https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/.
>
> Only stable releases will be distributed through both GNU and NonGNU
> ELPA repositories.  For those who want to test the unstable version of
> Org, please install Org from Git:
>
> ~$ git clone https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode.git
>
> See https://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation
>
> If you used Org ELPA and are affected by this change, please tell us
> if this change affects you.
>
> Thanks!


-- 
Tim Cross

Re: Shutting down Org ELPA: No new release of Org on Org ELPA after Org 9.5

[Bastien]

Hi Tim,

Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> writes:

> To clarify, does this mean org 9.6 will be the first version only
> released via GNU elpa (i.e. bug fixes for 9.5 will still be released
> via Org elpa e.g. 9.5.1)?

No, it means 9.5 will be the last version released on Org ELPA,
further bugfix releases will only be distributed through GNU ELPA.

9.5.1 won't be on Org ELPA, which will not get new releases after 9.5.

I hope this is clearer now, thanks for asking,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Shutting down Org ELPA: No new release of Org on Org ELPA after Org 9.5

[Samuel Wales]

ok so org releases will be [just guesses here]
- emacs core
- there is a gnu elpa
- there is a nongnu elpa
- there is an org git
correct?


On 3/28/21, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> To clarify, does this mean org 9.6 will be the first version only
>> released via GNU elpa (i.e. bug fixes for 9.5 will still be released
>> via Org elpa e.g. 9.5.1)?
>
> No, it means 9.5 will be the last version released on Org ELPA,
> further bugfix releases will only be distributed through GNU ELPA.
>
> 9.5.1 won't be on Org ELPA, which will not get new releases after 9.5.
>
> I hope this is clearer now, thanks for asking,
>
> --
>  Bastien
>
>


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Re: Shutting down Org ELPA: No new release of Org on Org ELPA after Org 9.5

[Bastien]

Hi Samuel,

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> - emacs core

... will contain the latest sync'ed Org version: we try to sync 
the latest Org stable ASAP, but I have not been consistent during
the last years.

> - there is a gnu elpa

... will contain Org latest stable.

> - there is a nongnu elpa

... will only contain the future org-contrib package.

> - there is an org git

... will give access to the latest Org.

> correct?

Yes.  The baseline here is: "If you want to use Org, then using
Emacs, GNU ELPA and NonGNU ELPA is enough.  If you want to test
Org, please use it from Git." -- which does not really differ
from the current situation, except that we won't have Org ELPA
in the mix anymore.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Shutting down Org ELPA: No new release of Org on Org ELPA after Org 9.5

[Jean Louis]

* Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> [2021-03-28 09:58]:
> Hi all,
> 
> over the years, Org ELPA at https://orgmode.org/elpa/ has been useful
> to make it possible to install Org and Org+Contrib as ELPA packages,
> but maintaining a separate ELPA space just for Org is not necessary.

Good decision, it lessens confusion on it.

> Org 9.5 will be the last release to be distributed on Org ELPA.  After
> 9.5, we won't use Org ELPA for new releases.  Past releases will still
> be available, though maybe not indefinitely.

Maybe previous versions you can also push to GNU ELPA, it is anyway
full of various previous versions for other packages. It this is
considered important.

Jean