From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:15:39 +0300 Message-ID: References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <271290d7aa1041b9df56@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39502"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 17:21:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lONJO-000AAI-Qt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:21:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37968 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lONJN-0002DP-Si for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lONG8-0007HD-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:18:28 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:33155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lONG7-0000UE-8g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:18:28 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.53]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E1B8.000000006058C350.000069EB; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 09:18:23 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Gregory Heytings , Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <271290d7aa1041b9df56@heytings.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266758 Archived-At: * Gregory Heytings [2021-03-22 15:24]: > > > > Well... the suggested experiment does not remove C-o, it changes C-o > > > in a way that is, I believe, painless. > > > > Sorry; I didn't read the patch carefully. So it basically moves `C-o' > > to `C-o C-o' (and makes the `C-o' prefix open for new commands)? > > > > Yes and yes. > > > > > I don't use `C-o' myself, so I can't really say to what degree this > > would be annoying or not for users. Any `C-o' users who have an opinion > > here? > > > > I think we won't really know without experimenting. Gregory, don't you think that 3 users including me who expressed their objections is not part of the experiment already?