From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How about making `set-minibuffer-window' obsolete?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 11:46:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YFM9sT2VkjQCC9Hb@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y2emc500.fsf@gnu.org>
Hello, Eli.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 14:57:19 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 20:50:17 +0000
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> > > I'd object to obsoleting a command just because it can be dangerous
> > > when used unwisely.
> > Every use of this command is unwise. It cannot possibly do anything
> > useful. It can only cause problems.
> I don't think I agree, not in this general form anyway. The C code
> assigns values to minibuf_window in several places; this function is
> the Lisp counterpart of that. If the C code can assign that variable,
> why cannot Lisp code do the same if it needs to?
The C code does it only under very carefully controlled circumstances
(such as when iconising a frame).
> With the current tendency to move stuff from C to Lisp, it is even
> less understandable why would you think this function's use in unwise.
> If you have specific reasons for that, please describe them in more
> detail.
> > Could I ask you, please, to reconsider?
> I might -- if I see some specific reasoning. I didn't see that yet.
OK. set-minibuffer-window, as it stands, has no function. Maybe as an
alternative to obsoleting it, we could give it functionality - the
function could move an open minibuffer from one frame to another frame,
for example. But I'm not sure what the use case is. All the
minibuffer-follows-selected-frame stuff is done internally in minibuf.c.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-18 11:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-16 18:16 How about making `set-minibuffer-window' obsolete? Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-16 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-16 20:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-17 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-18 11:46 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2021-03-18 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-16 19:42 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-16 23:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-16 23:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-16 23:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-17 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-17 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2021-03-16 23:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-16 23:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-17 8:44 ` martin rudalics
2021-03-17 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-17 15:36 ` martin rudalics
2021-03-17 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
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