From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: can't compile master on MacOS 10.15 with fink Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:00:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87sg5o1rj8.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <877dn0h3na.fsf@gmail.com> <875z2k1i0k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35134"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: EMACS development team To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 23 20:03:34 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEcy6-00094F-KU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:03:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47854 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEcy5-0007oi-Km for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 14:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEcvb-0006mf-6y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 14:00:59 -0500 Original-Received: from outbound.soverin.net ([116.202.65.218]:44153) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEcvW-0006LN-L6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 14:00:58 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (unknown [10.10.3.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by outbound.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56E9560157 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from smtp.soverin.net (smtp.soverin.net [159.69.232.138]) by soverin.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=idiocy.org; s=soverin; t=1614106846; bh=rJxomiLB7lpVsD3MbvaMI6FU7JyNaoVo0hUoW+VxitE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=rQT+hTVNSec7lZQ+FZPmDR9vlW6S4jtzBboWCW5rnEmItG1P6a2/ICUV7RnLtV5SH X1UGWHK4W+SIhsfI8zk1QigTBSKeiX0MxNMxfdpjGKAO5H7CnCoz9lPWL+by8PDJnD YxwPttcC4xEMElSPSFTjTkO2eVGZHDuqklvGRFg47vRZs9il3e+lHKemMrpKTK3QDI 6LufkCTx75IIFFluYymUTgqMx1/1TgFtk2uzAwMjsiQFfQjpx+g8NkTWCvTThDpC6e a122nF/FAjs2Ko4mfF+OXs0Bh+WmXJ+zgQgQv5EM9sWkEMalJbAP89HXA6bhV2AKE6 Ps8k0tQQmnf7w== Original-Received: by breton.holly.idiocy.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 41903202AA69D4; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 19:00:44 +0000 (GMT) Mail-Followup-To: Alan Third , chad , EMACS development team Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.65.218; envelope-from=alan@idiocy.org; helo=outbound.soverin.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265548 Archived-At: On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 02:49:48PM -0800, chad wrote: > (the toolkit code used by the ns port is potentially at/beyond its > theoretical end of support) I think you've got this a little backwards. The Mac port used to use Carbon, which is beyond it's end-of-life, or is at least not seeing new feature development. The Mac port also uses a lot of "NEXTstep" (Cocoa) code, which is still the current toolkit for macOS and iOS, although it has another name on iOS and I can't remember what it is. The NS port is almost entirely "NEXTstep" (GNUstep and Cocoa, specifically). -- Alan Third