From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 00:49:29 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87eehng52n.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtwbye5b.fsf@gmail.com> <87czx7ycva.fsf@tcd.ie> <87eehmyalr.fsf@gmail.com> <877dneoewi.fsf@tcd.ie> <875z2yy6z7.fsf@gmail.com> <83v9axg3sr.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8gpws3i.fsf@gmail.com> <87k0rdvdal.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9534"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Cc: Robert Pluim , chad , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 12 22:55:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lAgPS-0002Mn-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 22:55:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAgPR-0008MF-TZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 16:55:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48318) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAgMl-0007b5-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 16:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:45265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lAgMj-0002j3-0j; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 16:52:42 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.3]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E07B.000000006026F8A5.00001DD6; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 14:52:37 -0700 Mail-Followup-To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Robert Pluim , Eli Zaretskii , chad , emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87k0rdvdal.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264560 Archived-At: * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2021-02-12 12:36]: > Robert Pluim writes: > > > ~/.../archives/emacs-bugs > > $ grep '^In.*pc-linux-gnu' 2018-* 2019-* 2020-*|grep -i 'motif'|wc -l > > 3 > > > > So itʼs ~80% GTK, 16% Lucid, and Motif can be removed. > > Thanks for the analysis, and I agree that if we're going to remove > anything Motif seems like the obvious candidate here. > > One possible thing to take into consideration: Are there any systems > (that we care about) where Motif is the only toolkit solution > available? Motif: http://www.opengroup.org/desktop/motif.html CDE: https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Home/ As Motif offers high degree of compatibility for various systems it would not be good to remove it for the sake of users on those systems. Jean