From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: Blocked message to gmail addresses Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 19:41:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <86cz6xmsxr.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <87cz6xcmrm.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> <87y1plmcoc.fsf@yandex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wKCZnA1D5N/SdwMI" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14849"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 29 19:41:59 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pMCco-0003gI-IQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 19:41:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMCcG-0005DX-A8; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:41:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMCc6-0005DF-2c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:41:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMCc4-0008Vq-3T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:41:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Ya331WMoH1gn5HfQM1/w5JSlN+3rAcPQOWB/GiG/mL4=; b=GlA47TlojfQpPxduj4mLw252B1 Hm+WxmMeJUiCh3WwF1Zx8mdtPWdWYjRW11tmWOBMDG4nVozr11a+Jw/TnLPaViaWKXjQLIg7tNcZD 5g8aN42s+WyhA6KaqFFsDry6vOuD72obHPUYPtSzlFwP910YTQ4zhYdxcXjf/KiUXzYlvlpY6vh/z 0cRnZT+V39NlPN0hCbHzUkcJRLzS3zPddZF+lwusR2xNVVB7V8xfvriJfmRNAxtcMMjsIWzTqQfL2 q298bBuWU58B+/8VITzKlGb1HO0wbZ96Re+UbZZejvMZneyslaAczJV7w62RBD+6lekcYhJV+uBG2 gp1SR7ZQ==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1pMCc0-0005bH-7t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2023 19:41:08 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y1plmcoc.fsf@yandex.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142554 Archived-At: --wKCZnA1D5N/SdwMI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 06:13:39PM +0000, Colin Baxter wrote: [...] > mail-tester is more than likely to verify your email address. A similar > thing happens to me if I try to email a google address. Google > automatically classes email from yandex as spam and will not forward it > to the intended recipient [...] My observation is that they /do/ deliver the mail, but marked as spam. So it's the user who misses it, because it is in the spam folder. Combined with the fearmongering that the spam folder is full of Bad Things which will eat your computer, they are causing the user to throw away that mails. This is a tad more insidious (what Shoshana Zuboff calls "Behavior Modification"). Cheers --=20 t --wKCZnA1D5N/SdwMI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCY9a9vQAKCRAFyCz1etHa RiuqAJ0Q7DA3qicrw+Z+ZrEG6+Hhe/59dwCdHMlEIXk6Uf27DtALAd1VIJRQC4g= =fsoq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wKCZnA1D5N/SdwMI--