From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60568: [FR] 30.0.50; Help buffers and function bodies for generated functions Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:03:03 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87fscpifdw.fsf@localhost> <83a62xxuzs.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9731"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9+54 (af2080d) (2022-11-21) Cc: Ihor Radchenko , 60568@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 05 18:14:23 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pDTos-0002L2-D6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 18:14:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDTi3-0007fm-7n; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:07:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDTho-0007Vk-8B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:07:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDThm-0006W1-V1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:07:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDThm-0006su-RR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:07:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 17:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60568.167293839126402 (code B ref 60568); Thu, 05 Jan 2023 17:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2023 17:06:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52721 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDThH-0006rm-HW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:06:31 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:46419) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDThF-0006rA-Rd for 60568@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:06:30 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:102.85.153.82]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000055D56.0000000063B70398.00002217; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 10:06:31 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83a62xxuzs.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252614 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii [2023-01-05 11:11]: > You basically ignore the valid objections voiced against such a > feature, and present a specific case where (a) the source code is > extremely short, and (b) the existing Help facilities are less than > helpful because they have a deficiency. How does it follow from the > specific use case you present that we must show the source code in > Help buffers? I have understood that as a button, hyperlink to source, like ignore is an interactive byte-compiled Lisp function in ‘subr.el’. whereby ‘subr.el’ would be the button to the source, and if it can't be found in the file, then temporary buffer may be displayed to tell what or how function is defined, like by using `symbol-function' function. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/