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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672155491; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=BloYYaXlFGrYVZwEV7Jz2GF8ois29GidRIrgfv1Oy3Q=; b=AQNUZDVXTa1z4JsXCmYAaC6zqfACH3ceM8yFu6T/ZRne9XLb898CUz3zL5s7/9ix36CKFt FcNusaHiaBTPsqMUDOCB2j6MQ+R9dL6nw/BCEG90bCVQ2ZQQOjR9dmemO3vZSV6uJ196lK iIz1MpQgfSdAqfnboklrKr8i2XOhH8ed32J21S28vUpVV0rQZsoZTzEHNPWb4vD+UK3TO1 JuXAeax9ArISEKC0JzWaBSI3OjvAS0E/TrMkB7qRCpRt5O4UF3NRjO4BkQ7yL4511bc0Ik c3O2I2wRYZBBFu8Knf3hoYiiwL1cRdBwSo8n4JWZc8KZHO1oyuIZG8Gih7JIJw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=IGDZsQ50; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672155491; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Fz1yaROk10GcNcOk+zsXENZ2OEcxbPKH+n81C5/bOwTDgTV1eRnWaRc0lfP51kF3y+zkTA Bs94thu3tNMD+B5cYwALZKzLZFyrVUbBZeu2Ozq5x5xCMv3/rd3S6SImFOwdWadU/2l+aB 585BeCbfHc3m6si3/o0HMKrNn7F4yS2xrolOv9MPseS2n6tnHtKonUrrrvE7aVeND3uee/ CqbjyuY0fMni3cf8E+noNzhRClh4uvyh0ijaDG36PH2zbHaUeA9iV1Qf4kfmBk4uYnfCD/ cBAciIcv3yho0n2pAbITOi00WcaMh6lOLxoJo5Uauw6R9zvHm4kjkEKPCW5TYg== X-Spam-Score: 0.57 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B39DA13096 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=IGDZsQ50; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.57 X-TUID: Air6tiWt2AId --rVHraXy6geixjPz5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 02:15:26PM +0000, abq@bitrot.link wrote: > Another idea: >=20 > Your example was: >=20 > * General animals > Some text about general animals >=20 > ** arthropods > spiders and things >=20 > * - > More about animals in general >=20 > ** vertebrates > so-and-so >=20 >=20 > But to express your intended meaning, how about this instead: >=20 > * General animals > Some text about general animals >=20 > ** arthropods > spiders and things >=20 > ** - > More about animals in general >=20 > ** vertebrates > so-and-so Hm. To me, it would be less intuitive (the material under this pseudo heading is intended to be level 1, not 2). So you might like to add this to the costs. Or not, if that doesn't make sense to you :) > IMO, the benefits outweigh the costs, because the benefits prevent proble= ms > with editing when using current software, and the costs only cause proble= ms > with viewing and navigation. >=20 > Future versions of Org could: > Skip numbering of lone-dash sections. > Skip folding them when folding subsections. > Skip them when jumping to next/previous section. > Display them at one level shallower than currently standard in > org-indent-mode, and maybe omit display of the lone-dash line itself. >=20 >=20 > BTW, this would be another reason to use a character other than dash, > because you already use dash for an incompatible meaning. Don't count my use case. It is well localised, and shouldn't interfere with a choice of character. You had one more compelling downside of dash (for dot: perhaps it looks too much like the ellipsis of a folded subsection). I actually liked the comma, which has already a job as an escape-character for line constructs in Org. But we are already bikeshedding: I'd leave that for when you have enough users. Two people bikeshedding isn't enough fun :) Cheers --=20 t --rVHraXy6geixjPz5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCY6sRFAAKCRAFyCz1etHa Rl52AJ9GgJnMV2DVAi4u3n7TpvZCrSI9bACeKElLbmfN/scjmgFtCl5kisKRBdM= =xBaz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rVHraXy6geixjPz5--